masej
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Chicago White Sox
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
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Post by masej on Jun 23, 2008 19:51:08 GMT -5
my 2 cents:
dan i play video games against the computer all the time. i hate you for making fun of me like that.
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Post by Spencer on Jun 23, 2008 19:52:42 GMT -5
This sucks, but it also gives us a chance to start fresh in certain respects. If someone can step up and be the commish if Josh is also quitting, maybe that person can develop a staff of helpers that can create a league that everyone can love.
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2008 19:54:55 GMT -5
The point is to do both. When some do not even do either of them. Fine you can just export, but you will not get the benefit of the posting and receiving the rewards. But if you post as well you get rewarded and help your team. what is the problem? The only problem I see is you. So do I get rewards for exporting every sim? maybe we should. Maybe their should be a system that allows you to get money for getting every export in for every sim. But than again, why should you get rewarded? It will only hurt your team if you do not get your exports in so who cares. This is about posting and raising activity.
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2008 19:55:33 GMT -5
you kidding right? Go back on all the sim league days, how many people have asked if these will be put in...If their player of the weeks will be done. If their cash will be rewarded. Going to an all star game, pitching a perfect game. How many times have we asked and received nothing? I really do not want to go through them all and bring them all up but they are there. And I do remember either Josh or Bob pointing out that they didnt' do it every sim....it was every couple or every few sims depending on their time. If it hasn't been done recently (due to their time constraints) then I understand what you're talking about. As far as the rest goes, I had totally forgotten about all the extra gimmicks we had for rewards at the end of the year. Maybe they did to... its all been forgotten for awhile now.
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2008 19:57:08 GMT -5
I do not have a problem with people expressing their opinions i have a problem with you going against everything this leagues gms bring up to better the league. These guys are only trying to help and you seem to go against it every time.
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Post by Spencer on Jun 23, 2008 19:58:44 GMT -5
Matt your attitude does come across as negative most of the time. These guys are good guys that want the league to be better.
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Post by Spencer on Jun 23, 2008 20:01:09 GMT -5
I dont think posting should be a big part of rewards, but BBS has proven rewards make a league better. I hate when leagues have virtually no MB life, and almost all OOTP leagues Im in have no life. Small rewards for activity make things more interesting, and it sucks sometimes when people that haven't experienced the benefits of it automatically say its a bad idea.
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2008 20:01:14 GMT -5
maybe we should. Maybe their should be a system that allows you to get money for getting every export in for every sim. But than again, why should you get rewarded? It will only hurt your team if you do not get your exports in so who cares. This is about posting and raising activity. If I don't get rewarded for exporting to keep my team in good shape, why should someone get rewarded for posting random BS on the message board? Its nobodies fault that you do not get your exports in, its only going to hurt your team. This is all about activity and raising it within the league. If you can not get your exports in, oh well. But within the community people should be active still. I really do not see the problem in this. If you can get your exports done you can post 1-3 times a day.
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Post by Spencer on Jun 23, 2008 20:03:35 GMT -5
And there is no reason why consecutive exports for sims cant be given a reward of some type.
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2008 20:04:24 GMT -5
And there is no reason why consecutive exports for sims cant be given a reward of some type. i see no problem with this as well. reward posting and exporting.
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matt
Scrub
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Post by matt on Jun 23, 2008 20:04:51 GMT -5
Everyone in this league is a big boy. Yall need to respect eachothers opinions.
I still don't think GMs should be rewarded for posting. GMs shouldn't be rewarded for anything thats out of game unless it's from writing articles about there team. I've been in leagues with gimmicks and prop bets and I never could really get into them.
Spencer, me and Steve have talked at length about the league should Josh also leave his job as commish. I think we have the foundation for a great league.
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2008 20:08:33 GMT -5
you post 200 times in a season you get some cash.
you get 10 exports in a row you get some cash
you get all exports in you get a larger sum
some ideas. not hard to track.
like i said i do not have a problem with you stating your opinions, but you always are against everything. whats a league without arguments anyway. GABL?
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matt
Scrub
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Post by matt on Jun 23, 2008 20:08:36 GMT -5
All these things (reward system, waivers, ect.) need be voted on during the offseason. End of story.
No use in bitching about all this now.
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Post by CardinalsGM on Jun 23, 2008 20:13:51 GMT -5
you post 200 times in a season you get some cash. you get 10 exports in a row you get some cash you get all exports in you get a larger sum some ideas. not hard to track. like i said i do not have a problem with you stating your opinions, but you always are against everything. whats a league without arguments anyway. GABL? Is it going to be posts throughout the whole forum or just in the sims?
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masej
Starter
Chicago White Sox
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
Posts: 488
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Post by masej on Jun 23, 2008 20:14:45 GMT -5
All these things (reward system, waivers, ect.) need be voted on during the offseason. End of story. No use in bitching about all this now. true.
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2008 20:15:09 GMT -5
we can still talk about ideas, no use to wait to the off season when its almost here. This is good so we get things moving..
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Post by Spencer on Jun 23, 2008 20:15:39 GMT -5
Sorry for stating my opinion. Guess I'll keep everything to myself. How are you going to judge the rewards? Will it be based on every post throughout the message board? Or just in the ones within each sim? No reason to apologize for stating your opinion, you could apologize for being negative if you wanted too though. Any type of rewards would need to be discussed. There would need to be guidelines and moderators. Im also guessing a new MB would be a must as well. The most important thing is realizing when people make threads like this is to improve the league, not tear it down.
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2008 20:16:04 GMT -5
you post 200 times in a season you get some cash. you get 10 exports in a row you get some cash you get all exports in you get a larger sum some ideas. not hard to track. like i said i do not have a problem with you stating your opinions, but you always are against everything. whats a league without arguments anyway. GABL? Is it going to be posts throughout the whole forum or just in the sims? entire forum i would say. but this is just ideas. nothing set in stone.
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Post by Spencer on Jun 23, 2008 20:16:30 GMT -5
All these things (reward system, waivers, ect.) need be voted on during the offseason. End of story. No use in bitching about all this now. true. The should be decided now, so they can be enforced in the offseason. If we wait too long this will drag into the offseason and push everything back.
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Post by CardinalsGM on Jun 23, 2008 20:19:37 GMT -5
Is it going to be posts throughout the whole forum or just in the sims? entire forum i would say. but this is just ideas. nothing set in stone. Hell, if it's the entire forum on any BS, I can do that in 20 minutes on a good day...just a one word post every few seconds and I have my 200 posts and cash coming. That's where i see the problem. Needs to be some sort of structure or requirements to it rather than just posts.
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masej
Starter
Chicago White Sox
"We might as well just win this game." -Adam Jones
Posts: 488
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Post by masej on Jun 23, 2008 20:21:29 GMT -5
come on matt... thats pretty stubborn not to apologize for you coming off negative. i think anyone reading could hint at the negativity. im not taking a jab, but i think its pretty rude. there is no need to continue arguing when we can just solve things.
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2008 20:22:55 GMT -5
entire forum i would say. but this is just ideas. nothing set in stone. Hell, if it's the entire forum on any BS, I can do that in 20 minutes on a good day...just a one word post every few seconds and I have my 200 posts and cash coming. That's where i see the problem. Needs to be some sort of structure or requirements to it rather than just posts. It seems to work well in other leagues. That will be good, 200 posts of nothing. Get people talking about random shit, whats wrong with that. Will be good for this league, get some life in it. And so what people earn some cash for doing basically nothing, makes things more interesting. Cash does not do a whole lot either really. It helps but not much, everyone has a chance to earn the same thing, structure not really necessary.
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Post by Spencer on Jun 23, 2008 20:23:22 GMT -5
Matt, nothing concrete has been discussed, and your attitude is already completely negative. I know your alliances lie with Josh and Bob, and thats awesome, they're great guys. But you can actually like new ideas and be in favor of them without it meaning you arent supporting your friends.
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Post by Spencer on Jun 23, 2008 20:26:36 GMT -5
Ideas to promote activity.
If you export for 10 consecutive sims you get 1 fan point. This would need to have some sort of moderator other then the main commish obviously.
An article written for the league can either gain you cash, or a fan point.
200 posts can either gain you cash or a fan point.
None of these rewards are huge, but they can supplement you in building a team.
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Post by Spencer on Jun 23, 2008 20:28:21 GMT -5
I think a new organized board is a must.
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