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Post by Mark on Dec 15, 2007 14:16:41 GMT -5
Re-starting gets people as close to each other as realistically possible. Good GMs shouldn't be punished, and bad GMs shouldn't be rewarded. They're being rewarded enough because a re-start allows them to, theoretically, get out of the hell hole that is their teams. Lumley is the worst GM, so we're going to let him pick 1st and take Shaq? How long until one of the good GMs takes him, without giving anything of value? It's getting too cute, and not necessary. Time for me to study.
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Post by ducky on Dec 15, 2007 14:40:33 GMT -5
A huge NO. I for one don't see what the huge deal with fake players is, if we get draft profiles for the top prospects we should be fine anyways, and if your a good GM, you'll adapt. I personally like fake players, makes things more interesting and more challenging. Not to mention, lots of teams, including myself, finally got their teams on the right track, and to just throw it away and re-start is not something I'm in favor of. Agreed, don't you dare restart... I'll keep this league going, but don't restart. This is the best league.
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Post by Mark on Dec 15, 2007 14:42:14 GMT -5
A huge NO. I for one don't see what the huge deal with fake players is, if we get draft profiles for the top prospects we should be fine anyways, and if your a good GM, you'll adapt. I personally like fake players, makes things more interesting and more challenging. Not to mention, lots of teams, including myself, finally got their teams on the right track, and to just throw it away and re-start is not something I'm in favor of. Agreed, don't you dare restart... I'll keep this league going, but don't restart. This is the best league. Is this not purely because you have a really good team right now?
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Post by Scott on Dec 15, 2007 14:42:17 GMT -5
I'm really indifferent as to a restart. Since I just got back in, it would be nice to be able to rebuild the Nets. But I'm also really excited about the idea of getting back to current players as draft classes instead of having fake players. Never been a huge fan of fake guys, so I like the idea for that.
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Post by Skillz on Dec 15, 2007 14:42:30 GMT -5
ducky finally has a good team..LOL
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Post by Adelaide on Dec 15, 2007 14:42:48 GMT -5
So who is the powerhouse team during this time...Rome? Carthage? Yucatan? The Forbidden City? I heard Septimus Severus was one of the best 3 point shooters before the Middle Ages when Richard the Lionheart emerged with a stroke of his own.
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Post by ducky on Dec 15, 2007 14:44:44 GMT -5
Agreed, don't you dare restart... I'll keep this league going, but don't restart. This is the best league. Is this not purely because you have a really good team right now? Of course. And for all the other GMs who put a lot of effort. How is that fair? This happened pretty suddenly also... I had no clue restarting right now was on Spencer's mind. IF spence doesn't want to run it why not at least someone else run the league and he can restart a new one? I'm sure people would still be interested in being this league, along with a new one...
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Post by Mark on Dec 15, 2007 14:46:44 GMT -5
Is this not purely because you have a really good team right now? Of course. And for all the other GMs who put a lot of effort. How is that fair? This happened pretty suddenly also... I had no clue restarting right now was on Spencer's mind. IF spence doesn't want to run it why not at least someone else run the league and he can restart a new one? I'm sure people would still be interested in being this league, along with a new one... No they won't. He kept the last BBS going for a little longer after we re-started, and no one cared anymore. The last re-start came out of nowhere as well, and was by far the most annoying thing I've been apart of in a sim. But it worked out.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Dec 15, 2007 14:47:39 GMT -5
i dont think that gms have to be seeded due to the # they are but i think it should be close so all divisions are even... letting worst gms pick what pick they want in the draft i dont like... i think random draft order is the best idea but there are a lot of ways we could do that
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Post by ducky on Dec 15, 2007 14:49:36 GMT -5
Of course. And for all the other GMs who put a lot of effort. How is that fair? This happened pretty suddenly also... I had no clue restarting right now was on Spencer's mind. IF spence doesn't want to run it why not at least someone else run the league and he can restart a new one? I'm sure people would still be interested in being this league, along with a new one... No they won't. He kept the last BBS going for a little longer after we re-started, and no one cared anymore. The last re-start came out of nowhere as well, and was by far the most annoying thing I've been apart of in a sim. But it worked out. Well why not restart when FBB2 comes out? I really don't see what the big reason to restart is? I don't mind fake players. What's wrong with that? The probably I have with is what's the point of being in a sim that plans to only go for 10 years?? This went from like 2001-2012? I just don't get it...
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Post by Mark on Dec 15, 2007 14:57:06 GMT -5
Re-starting is fun. I have a great roster and a great future with Monta-Martell-Sidney, and whoever I can get if/when I deal off Yao and Walton, but I'm fine with it. Spence's interest isn't there right now, and hopefully this will jumpstart him as well. It's for the good of the league.
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Post by Skillz on Dec 15, 2007 14:58:24 GMT -5
I agree with mark here
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Post by ducky on Dec 15, 2007 15:00:14 GMT -5
So should I expect the new sim to only go to 2010? Because if someone told me that before, that would have changed how I did things tremendously. But whatever, obviously most GMs are for the restart. pbc08.proboards101.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1196392546C-Darrell Arthur B D+ D- B B- B PF-Michael Beasley B C+ C B- B- A SF-Julian Wright B C C+ B C+ A SG-Kevin Martin B A- C+ B+ C- B PG-Chris Paul B- B+ A- B+ C- B 6th-Hilton Armstrong C+ D+ D- B+ B- B Oh well... So that's 2 leagues that I built a really sexy team, but the league decides to die on me. I swear, it's done on purpose.
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Post by Mark on Dec 15, 2007 15:01:48 GMT -5
You get no sympathy for having a good team and the league ending, not after what me/Reilly/DJ lost when we re-started last time.
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Post by Skillz on Dec 15, 2007 15:03:31 GMT -5
I may be wrong considering i've only been with ducky in the nbn and bbs, but the only thing i've ever seen him do is suck for 3-4 years, get a shitload of good draft picks and then just let them grow. Not knocking that as it seems to work, but it doesn't take much skill.
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Post by ducky on Dec 15, 2007 15:05:09 GMT -5
I may be wrong considering i've only been with ducky in the nbn and bbs, but the only thing i've ever seen him do is suck for 3-4 years, get a shitload of good draft picks and then just let them grow. Not knocking that as it seems to work, but it doesn't take much skill. And what's wrong with that. The Blazers did it in real life, and about every other team.
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Post by Mark on Dec 15, 2007 15:07:30 GMT -5
ducky, tank for 5 years in the new BBS, and we'll look past it. The team will probably still suck.
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Post by ducky on Dec 15, 2007 15:09:05 GMT -5
ducky, tank for 5 years in the new BBS, and we'll look past it. The team will probably still suck. Well I guess we'll never know.
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Post by aaronjh on Dec 15, 2007 15:09:20 GMT -5
I may be wrong considering i've only been with ducky in the nbn and bbs, but the only thing i've ever seen him do is suck for 3-4 years, get a shitload of good draft picks and then just let them grow. Not knocking that as it seems to work, but it doesn't take much skill. And what's wrong with that. The Blazers did it in real life, and about every other team. Yeah, it's all Ducky does. I wish he would try something new because he becomes a boring member with a boring team who won't try out much trading-wise.
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Post by Adelaide on Dec 15, 2007 15:10:02 GMT -5
And what's wrong with that. The Blazers did it in real life, and about every other team. Yeah, it's all Ducky does. I wish he would try something new because he becomes a boring member with a boring team who won't try out much trading-wise. And boring post-pads.
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Post by Mark on Dec 15, 2007 15:10:41 GMT -5
That aren't funny.
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Post by ducky on Dec 15, 2007 15:10:43 GMT -5
Haters... I guess I'll just have to prove ya'll wrong in the new league.
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Post by GP on Dec 15, 2007 15:10:56 GMT -5
I would say restart but not till the FBB2 comes out...until then we should try to ride out the league a lil bit with fake players and try it out...if it doesnt work out, im in favor of a creation draft and starting over...
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Post by Bluedevils on Dec 15, 2007 15:25:56 GMT -5
Heavyreign (the creator of FBB) has a history of having long lapses of inactivity so I really wouldn't count on waiting for the next version to come out anytime soon. He's been delaying it for years.
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Post by Dan on Dec 15, 2007 15:27:39 GMT -5
I did not read all the posts yet, so i dont know where everyone is at right now. But I do not care what we do here. I do not mind the idea of fake players because it is interesting and anyone can be good or bad, it is pretty cool, so keeping this league going would be awesome. But the idea of a restart is always promising and fun, and it should be a good time. I just have a question would we keep restarting the leagues to avoid fake players? That can be kind of annoying, when teams are prepare for the future or rebuild and the league restarts. Like myself, I was preparing to rebuild, but it doesnt bother me at all, we were going to suck so bad, this just avoids that.
So i will vote yes, why not. should be fun. I just hope that everytime we get to the fake players, we dont have to restart.
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