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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 17:09:39 GMT -5
I don't think anyone here is arguing. I'm not really defending Jeremy but I think the actions against him were pretty harsh and I think people tend to gang up on him. No one here has ever bitched out Rommie for his bullshit articles yet Jeremy always gets shit. Lumley has been making dumbass posts since the beginning of time yet he is still around but if Jeremy says something he gets killed for it. You say you are fair Spence? Well I just think banning him in such a manner is just unfair. Let him come back and do the article thing and sit out for a season.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 17:10:57 GMT -5
This is by far the worst part of putting time into being a commish. I spend endless hours to give you all the best experience possible in a sim league. And yet, when I make a decision that I feel is in the best interest of the league, 5-6 guys who have all complained about Jeremy at certain times feel the need to try and argue with me about it. Why would you feel the need to support Jeremy over me? Take a step back and measure what Jeremy has done for you, and what Ive done for you. Why do I sim everyday? Why do I try to recruit better GMs? Why do I write articles? Why do I try to work on making better draft classes? Whats the point if some irrational, annoying and irritating non-GM will still get some of the GMs support?
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 17:11:36 GMT -5
So, Jeremy will be banned from the BBS for the entirety of its life unless he agrees to these stipulations. -He loses his Asst GM spot with the Pistons, and cannot sign on as an Asst Gm until 2009. -He cannot post anything except articles in the forum until 2009. This means he cannot reply to anything posted in this forum, even his own articles, until 2009. -If he breaks either of these contingencies, he will not be allowed back in BBS, ever. Jeremy, if you agree to this, PM me. If you reply here you will have broken the reply rule and will be banned from BBS. Jeremy, youre a good kid, and I know you care, but at this point you have become a negative factor in BBS. Unless you can become a positive part of BBS, your presence isnt needed.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 17:13:18 GMT -5
This is by far the worst part of putting time into being a commish. I spend endless hours to give you all the best experience possible in a sim league. And yet, when I make a decision that I feel is in the best interest of the league, 5-6 guys who have all complained about Jeremy at certain times feel the need to try and argue with me about it. Why would you feel the need to support Jeremy over me? Take a step back and measure what Jeremy has done for you, and what Ive done for you. Why do I sim everyday? Why do I try to recruit better GMs? Why do I write articles? Why do I try to work on making better draft classes? Whats the point if some irrational, annoying and irritating non-GM will still get some of the GMs support? I don't think anyone was trying to compare Jeremy to you. It's no contest
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Post by Outlawz on Jul 29, 2007 17:13:59 GMT -5
Who gives a fuck?
Wether or not he's here or not. I dont care. If im running the show and somebody is fucking up the experience for me you better believe that person is gone. Simple. Lets all step outside the box and see what Spence is trying to convey but at the same time i find his stupid articles kinda funny lol because they're so stupid. It's something to look at when things are dull. I dont really mind either way but if its such a detriment to the person who puts in the time to run this league day after day then hey the guy should be gone.
This should not be a big deal at all.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 17:15:47 GMT -5
This is by far the worst part of putting time into being a commish. I spend endless hours to give you all the best experience possible in a sim league. And yet, when I make a decision that I feel is in the best interest of the league, 5-6 guys who have all complained about Jeremy at certain times feel the need to try and argue with me about it. Why would you feel the need to support Jeremy over me? Take a step back and measure what Jeremy has done for you, and what Ive done for you. Why do I sim everyday? Why do I try to recruit better GMs? Why do I write articles? Why do I try to work on making better draft classes? Whats the point if some irrational, annoying and irritating non-GM will still get some of the GMs support? I don't think anyone was trying to compare Jeremy to you. It's no contest Thats not my point. My point is, I clearly stated what I wanted from Jeremy, he couldn't comply, and yet I'm being unfair? What could I have done to be fair then? Deleted Jeremy's post and tried to re explain what I wanted from him? Asked the permission of every GM here if what I proposed was fair? Shit, I even PMd you, to make sure we came to an agreement on what we expected from Jeremy, and then all of a sudden youre defending him? Can you see how this baffles me?
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 17:18:12 GMT -5
Who gives a fuck? Wether or not he's here or not. I dont care. If im running the show and somebody is fucking up the experience for me you better believe that person is gone. Simple. Lets all step outside the box and see what Spence is trying to convey but at the same time i find his stupid articles kinda funny lol because they're so stupid. It's something to look at when things are dull. I dont really mind either way but if its such a detriment to the person who puts in the time to run this league day after day then hey the guy should be gone. This should not be a big deal at all. I'm lucky, the league is lucky, that Gms are passionate about things that happen here. Thats why the BBS is better then average. I'm surprised and disappointed by those who felt I was harsh with Jeremy, because I feel as though I was quite fair.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 17:22:15 GMT -5
I literally cannot believe I'm arguing with people about Jeremy leaving. I never thought there'd be any type of sentiment to keep him. Its shocking.
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Post by Adelaide on Jul 29, 2007 17:24:09 GMT -5
Who gives a fuck? Wether or not he's here or not. I dont care. If im running the show and somebody is fucking up the experience for me you better believe that person is gone. Simple. Lets all step outside the box and see what Spence is trying to convey but at the same time i find his stupid articles kinda funny lol because they're so stupid. It's something to look at when things are dull. I dont really mind either way but if its such a detriment to the person who puts in the time to run this league day after day then hey the guy should be gone. This should not be a big deal at all. I'm lucky, the league is lucky, that Gms are passionate about things that happen here. Thats why the BBS is better then average. I'm surprised and disappointed by those who felt I was harsh with Jeremy, because I feel as though I was quite fair. For me it is more of a I feel bad for the guy. Look at all the shit he has taken in his tenure here and he still showed up and posted. In my mind he either really likes taking shit, or he has nothing to do socially then this. I understand that your decision was made based on the welfare of this league, you saw unhappy GM's because of him and made a decision revolving around the best interest of the league. However, my beef lies with certain GM's in this thread who just keep nagging for him to leave, yeah hes fucking annoying as shit but I think Outlawz summed it up best who said it's funny to look at his stupid ass comments when things are dull.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 17:25:30 GMT -5
I'm lucky, the league is lucky, that Gms are passionate about things that happen here. Thats why the BBS is better then average. I'm surprised and disappointed by those who felt I was harsh with Jeremy, because I feel as though I was quite fair. For me it is more of a I feel bad for the guy. Look at all the shit he has taken in his tenure here and he still showed up and posted. In my mind he either really likes taking shit, or he has nothing to do socially then this. I understand that your decision was made based on the welfare of this league, you saw unhappy GM's because of him and made a decision revolving around the best interest of the league. However, my beef lies with certain GM's in this thread who just keep nagging for him to leave, yeah hes fucking annoying as shit but I think Outlawz summed it up best who said it's funny to look at his stupid ass comments when things are dull.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 17:25:57 GMT -5
I'm lucky, the league is lucky, that Gms are passionate about things that happen here. Thats why the BBS is better then average. I'm surprised and disappointed by those who felt I was harsh with Jeremy, because I feel as though I was quite fair. For me it is more of a I feel bad for the guy. Look at all the shit he has taken in his tenure here and he still showed up and posted. In my mind he either really likes taking shit, or he has nothing to do socially then this. I understand that your decision was made based on the welfare of this league, you saw unhappy GM's because of him and made a decision revolving around the best interest of the league. However, my beef lies with certain GM's in this thread who just keep nagging for him to leave, yeah hes fucking annoying as shit but I think Outlawz summed it up best who said it's funny to look at his stupid ass comments when things are dull. You can feel sorry for him. I have no problem with that. But when it comes down to it, he could still be here if he followed instructions. Why not be mad at him for being so unable to comprehend?
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 17:29:19 GMT -5
Spence did you PM him to let him know about the thread?
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 17:34:07 GMT -5
Spence did you PM him to let him know about the thread? Nope.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 17:36:01 GMT -5
I never initiate a conversation with him. Its like playing with fire.
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Post by Bender on Jul 29, 2007 17:36:04 GMT -5
he sux any way
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 17:36:35 GMT -5
His biggest defenders in this thread are the guys that fucked with him the most. Ironic?
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Post by garf2000 on Jul 29, 2007 18:02:55 GMT -5
I'm saying give him one final shot so NO one can complain or argue about it. I don't care what decision is made, I just don't want to see these arguments.
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Post by James on Jul 29, 2007 18:26:49 GMT -5
Eh, I feel for Jeremy. IMO he picked it up when he was asked to pick it up. He wrote so many articles last season. I'm sure if someone told him to put out a top 50 most valuable players article this week instead of 3 shitty ones, he would. He does care about this league believe it or not. He has probably been the most pro-active GM in this league with me in terms of trades. He does post shit, however so do half the GM's in this league.
I respect your decision Spence, but I just think its a little harsh.
(Can't even insert satisfied smile smiley or wink smiley, ridiculous)
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jul 29, 2007 18:35:09 GMT -5
i missed out on some serious post padding going out of town for the afternoon
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jul 29, 2007 18:40:04 GMT -5
i dont care at all that jeremy is gone... on the initial bet i figured he would do what reilly said quit then come back like 20 seconds later but then everyone took it as gone for good so i was all for it
he doesnt hurt my activity but i often wont click on recent replied posts because he was last person to reply so i figured i should wait for something meaningful to be said
jeremy brought something to the bbs something that it had never had... a nonstop annoying as fuck league idiot... will we miss that? i won't and i doubt anyone really will in about a week or two
yes i feel sorry for the guy but while he has gotten better with his knowledge of sim league in his time here i think he has gotten worse about his attitude in a lot of cases... it was obvious he was never getting a GM spot so he was really wasting his time here
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Post by nova on Jul 29, 2007 18:52:32 GMT -5
I really don't care either way, but if you let him in, do something like garf suggested. Maybe ban him for 1 week, let him back in on a provisional basis and see if he shows improvement & progress. If not, fire his ass.
Or, just fire his ass now.
I really don't care, but it seems like a few GM's want to give him one last chance, and it won't hurt to do it really as BBS has been running smoothly even with him around.
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Post by Dan on Jul 29, 2007 20:22:35 GMT -5
Who cares what happens to Jeremy.. Seriously guys everyone in this entire league has ragged on him one way or another, and right now its plain and simple how he got himself into this situation. Stop defending him, he is an asshole. I do not understand how people can defend him when he doesnt do anything positive for this leauge. He writes articles that everyone makes fun of him for, he doesnt know what is going on half the time. He can not handle being here.
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 30, 2007 3:27:10 GMT -5
Ive never ragged on Jeremy he is a good guy. He is always trying to please everyone. I agree with most of the stuff Aaron R, PIG and Krup said except fuck you about my posts. I kept this sim active for a very long time back in the past when Spencer left for awhile and everyone thought the league was dead. Most of you guys are veyr active unlike back then so I dont need to carry the activity load as it was back then. I feel Jeremy just got stressed out. He doesnt understand how to express his self properly yet. But he tries so damn hard.
Stop pretenting you guys are the fucking FCC, just like TV and Radio you dont have fucking read his post. Im for giving him another chance. By the way Krup, Aaron has been after Paul since day one.
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Post by garf2000 on Jul 30, 2007 7:38:13 GMT -5
Stop pretenting you guys are the fucking FCC, just like TV and Radio you dont have fucking read his post. yup
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Post by Vernon on Jul 30, 2007 8:14:15 GMT -5
Eh, I feel for Jeremy. IMO he picked it up when he was asked to pick it up. He wrote so many articles last season. I'm sure if someone told him to put out a top 50 most valuable players article this week instead of 3 shitty ones, he would. He does care about this league believe it or not. He has probably been the most pro-active GM in this league with me in terms of trades. He does post shit, however so do half the GM's in this league. I respect your decision Spence, but I just think its a little harsh. (Can't even insert satisfied smile smiley or wink smiley, ridiculous) Couldn't have said it better myself.
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