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Post by duce on Jul 29, 2007 14:41:01 GMT -5
Aaron, none of us do anything because Spence tells us to. Spence didn't make the bet, he didn't force Jeremy to accept, Jeremy accepted before any of us even said anything. Spence even gave Jeremy a chance to come back in the future, and even if it was a mistake, Jeremy had the gall to act like all of this was no big deal, like it was a joke. Everyone expected him to find a way around it and to keep posting, and he has. No one really expected him to leave, they were all just hoping, because he is that damn annoying sometimes. alright, it's not your fight though, chill. aaron has decent points, spencer did kind of see it as a ticket out. i think bottom line is this was almost not even done because of the bet but rather numerous previous incidents. there's no point in even discussing the bet at this point.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 14:41:13 GMT -5
all of this gay and I don't think Aaron's comments were negative to spence I think he basically said people just jump on Spence's bandwagon when he says something much like puppets.
I make the rumblings and grumblings article which was the same as whispers. Mine receives little to no attention but everyone says to spence, oh this is such a great idea.
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Post by aaron2344 on Jul 29, 2007 14:41:51 GMT -5
It's obvious what the overall feeling of the bet was. People thought Jeremy was gone for good if we lost. I told Jeremy to make the bet beacuse I saw the loophole in the bet. They said he only had to quit, not quit for good or a certain amount of time, but just quit. I thought it was an easy way to get 2 free RC's or not lose anything. That's why I told him to make the bet. As soon as he refused to clarify that he would be gone for good, I knew he'd find a way to stick around. That was just a pointless bet then honestly, not fair to Krup. If Jeremy stays, fine, but I'd like to propose that he has posting limits. Basically - he should only be able to post in the following forums - General Forums Articles Trade Talk Depth Charts This way, MAYBE he can still contribute something without annoying the hell out of everyone else. Not my fault Krupinski was unable to make it ironclad, lol. But like I've said to Spence in a PM, it's his decision with Jeremy. If he wants him gone, he's gone. No need to give him special treatment or rights on the boards. I just didn't want to see it happen to him without at least trying to help him, that's all.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 14:44:21 GMT -5
Either way I just wanted Jeremy off of the Pistons which is the reason I made the bet in the first place. Spence mentioned some stipulations via PM to me and I was like sure no posting except articles but I wanted him to be off the Pistons.
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Post by nybombers3 on Jul 29, 2007 14:44:26 GMT -5
As I told you last night, none of us pick on him for fun(except maybe Andy & Pig), we do it because he brings it on himself. No matter what he says, he's always acting immature, or posting stupid articles, or just making pointless comments. At the same time though, I used to defend the guy big time. I had no problems with him. I wanted him to get a team here and I was happy to see him get a team in UOSL. The guy just tried far to hard and when people tried to help, he didn't listen. He does a lot wrong and does it on a consistent basis.
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Post by nova on Jul 29, 2007 14:46:43 GMT -5
As soon as he refused to clarify that he would be gone for good, I knew he'd find a way to stick around. That was just a pointless bet then honestly, not fair to Krup. If Jeremy stays, fine, but I'd like to propose that he has posting limits. Basically - he should only be able to post in the following forums - General Forums Articles Trade Talk Depth Charts This way, MAYBE he can still contribute something without annoying the hell out of everyone else. Not my fault Krupinski was unable to make it ironclad, lol. But like I've said to Spence in a PM, it's his decision with Jeremy. If he wants him gone, he's gone. No need to give him special treatment or rights on the boards. I just didn't want to see it happen to him without at least trying to help him, that's all. Fair enough. I honestly don't care if he stays or goes. But, if he stays, he really needs to show some progress soon, which I think everyone agrees with. If he doesn't show improvement and progress soon, we really should consider axing him.
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Post by duce on Jul 29, 2007 14:46:51 GMT -5
Either way I just wanted Jeremy off of the Pistons which is the reason I made the bet in the first place. Spence mentioned some stipulations via PM to me and I was like sure no posting except articles but I wanted him to be off the Pistons. why, too many RCs?
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Post by nova on Jul 29, 2007 14:48:12 GMT -5
Aaron, none of us do anything because Spence tells us to. Spence didn't make the bet, he didn't force Jeremy to accept, Jeremy accepted before any of us even said anything. Spence even gave Jeremy a chance to come back in the future, and even if it was a mistake, Jeremy had the gall to act like all of this was no big deal, like it was a joke. Everyone expected him to find a way around it and to keep posting, and he has. No one really expected him to leave, they were all just hoping, because he is that damn annoying sometimes. alright, it's not your fight though, chill. aaron has decent points, spencer did kind of see it as a ticket out. Also, Spence is the commish, if he wants to fire someone, he can do it. It's his right as the commissioner, so he didn't need a "a ticket out" to fire Jeremy. He can fire him anytime he wants, it's his league.
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Post by nybombers3 on Jul 29, 2007 14:48:14 GMT -5
BTW, another thing that irks me.
Why make a comment like that?
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Post by duce on Jul 29, 2007 14:49:07 GMT -5
he's a trash talking machine and chances are if you're here, he's once been of the opinion that you suck and he could do much better than you.
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Post by nova on Jul 29, 2007 14:50:04 GMT -5
BTW, another thing that irks me. Why make a comment like that? That also bugged me. He says he wants to improve and show that he deserves a spot. He admitted that he's screwed up and that he needs to get better, but then he says that which shows he really doesn't understand why everyone gives him such a hard time.
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Post by nybombers3 on Jul 29, 2007 14:50:22 GMT -5
That's what I'm saying though. It's stupid and it's yet another reason why people would dislike the guy.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 14:52:17 GMT -5
Either way I just wanted Jeremy off of the Pistons which is the reason I made the bet in the first place. Spence mentioned some stipulations via PM to me and I was like sure no posting except articles but I wanted him to be off the Pistons. why, too many RCs? No actually I just didn't like his tude as he made it seem like he was responsible for the Lebron James/Chris Paul deal. Aaron called me up a few days ago discussing the idea of this trade and I said I loved it. Even though I have been after Paul myself for quite some time. Then he started talking shit like his Pistons were ready to take over the league and the Bulls should get ready. So thats the reason I made the bet so now he has nothing.
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Post by duce on Jul 29, 2007 14:53:33 GMT -5
No actually I just didn't like his tude as he made it seem like he was responsible for the Lebron James/Chris Paul deal. Aaron called me up a few days ago discussing the idea of this trade and I said I loved it. Even though I have been after Paul myself for quite some time. Then he started talking shit like his Pistons were ready to take over the league and the Bulls should get ready. So thats the reason I made the bet so now he has nothing. ahh, i see.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 14:58:47 GMT -5
I think we fucked with Jeremy's physique a lot by overlooking him constantly for GM positions. It was like we were picking for game at recess and Jeremy was the last one picked and we would argue who would take him and another kid would come by and be like can I play and we would like yea and keep Jeremy sitting on the sidelines.
I think Jeremy should have at least gotten the interim job in NJ while Skillz was gone and this would have been a good indication of maybe what he can do with a team. However my opinion of Jeremy has changed as of late. I don't like what he was doing or has done in uosl. I think his trades have been horrid.
I don't know a resolution for all of this but I do think Jeremy tries but his competence is just low. It's possible he is a minor leaguer for life. Hopefully over time maybe Jeremy will learn and in some instances I can see growth but he still has a way to go.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 15:17:32 GMT -5
I think we fucked with Jeremy's physique a lot by overlooking him constantly for GM positions. It was like we were picking for game at recess and Jeremy was the last one picked and we would argue who would take him and another kid would come by and be like can I play and we would like yea and keep Jeremy sitting on the sidelines. I think Jeremy should have at least gotten the interim job in NJ while Skillz was gone and this would have been a good indication of maybe what he can do with a team. However my opinion of Jeremy has changed as of late. I don't like what he was doing or has done in uosl. I think his trades have been horrid. I don't know a resolution for all of this but I do think Jeremy tries but his competence is just low. It's possible he is a minor leaguer for life. Hopefully over time maybe Jeremy will learn and in some instances I can see growth but he still has a way to go. I never once considered Jeremy for an open GM spot. Not even close. he doesnt deserve to be a GM in UOSL. He doesnt deserve to be a GM in any good league. Thats how bad he is. Also, if he things I had something against him before, its doubled. Id be completely shocked if Jeremy made enough progress to ever warrant a spot in BBS. Yea.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 15:21:17 GMT -5
And also, as far as people jumping on the "Hope Jeremy Loses the Bet Bandwagon" I didnt post once about the bet, or my feeling on the bet. It was a bandwagon without my presence.
Yet another reason why I dont get why Reilly made the reference to people doing as I say. It just makes no sense, and makes me angry still.
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Post by GP on Jul 29, 2007 15:21:34 GMT -5
good riddance jeremy i guess.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 16:04:05 GMT -5
post pad
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Post by Adelaide on Jul 29, 2007 16:18:42 GMT -5
Spence, for someone who likes activity as much as you do I think it's pretty stupid to let Jeremy walk.
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Post by duce on Jul 29, 2007 16:21:09 GMT -5
Spence, for someone who likes activity as much as you do I think it's pretty stupid to let Jeremy walk. ima say it like i said it in the uosl forum way before any of this went down... his activity makes others not want to be so active. he doesn't really provide an increase in activity at all.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 29, 2007 16:22:01 GMT -5
Spence, for someone who likes activity as much as you do I think it's pretty stupid to let Jeremy walk. Maybe at first glance. But over the last week Ive actually come to the conclusion that Jeremy may prevent others from being more active. Even if he doesn't, he is a negative for many people that are actually GMs in the league, so why keep someone here who is a drawback for some? Just doesn't make sense. If Jeremy could be active, without being annoying, it'd be win-win, but I don't see that ever happening. I'm sure Jeremy will just attribute all of this to unfair treatment which is why he wont change.
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Post by duce on Jul 29, 2007 16:23:09 GMT -5
spencer can you answer my PM
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 29, 2007 16:24:22 GMT -5
I see a whole lot of posts due to Jeremy's posts
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Post by nybombers3 on Jul 29, 2007 16:24:41 GMT -5
Another problem with Jeremy is that he's hard headed. If you have people trying to help you and you continue to do the same thing over and over to the point of annoying everyone including the person helping you, what's the point of giving you shot after shot?
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