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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:17:13 GMT -5
Because youre the commish... but if I was blatanly trying to tank, why on earth would I have my best players playing multiple times.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:17:33 GMT -5
It sucks if anyones opinion varies from mine, because in the end, I do what I thinks best. Not once have I even considered PMing Duce for tanking this year. go put your fidel sig back up Im trying to be blunt. I do understand that it sucks sometimes when I make decisions some dont like. But I cant make everyone happy, and overall, I think I do a damn good job of controlling situations. I think you can look at other leagues, and when their leadership falters, the league falters. it wont happen here. Either Ill be 100% in control of the sim, or it will end. Ill never allow it to flounder.
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Post by duce on Sept 2, 2007 14:17:59 GMT -5
the reason i made my frivolous argument, is because the reasoning for me tanking just fucken sucks and makes no sense at all to me.
i'm getting called out for running a fast pace and having no depth, yet i'm benching players who are just as good as my starters... makes no sense at all. i have no IL. i want to get everyone involved. i have tried a slow pace and hated it. i have tried everything there is to try and all of it has sucked.
making a title like "duce the tanker"... it's sketchy shit. it's hard for me to see it as a serious thing. if it's not an attempt to get in my head, then it's definitely just retarded in general. almost every argument you've made has contradicted another of yours. the whole thing is just plain dumb.
this post was directed at krup, if it was not obvious*
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:18:43 GMT -5
Because youre the commish... but if I was blatanly trying to tank, why on earth would I have my best players playing multiple times. Like I said, if you have players that are obviously worse, playing over players that are obviously better, Im gonna PM you about tanking. End of story. I dont care if you play your best players 40 minutes a night, if the backups on your DC are worse then guys on your IL, Ill PM you.
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Post by KruPaxson on Sept 2, 2007 14:18:52 GMT -5
I didnt have them on the IL, i didnt have them listed ANYWHERE, I forgot to have Gugliotta in my lineup! I had Diaw, Deron, Davis, and Emeka playing multiple times... how is that worse! Okay. You had Korver and Bell in your DC. You didnt have Googs or Knight in your DC. Googs + Knight > Korver + Bell. I PMD you because I felt it was blatant. In turn, you fixed it. you're bitching over his bench? And you have nothing to say about Duce's starters?
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:19:34 GMT -5
I didnt have them on the IL, i didnt have them listed ANYWHERE, I forgot to have Gugliotta in my lineup! I had Diaw, Deron, Davis, and Emeka playing multiple times... how is that worse! Okay. You had Korver and Bell in your DC. You didnt have Googs or Knight in your DC. Googs + Knight > Korver + Bell. I PMD you because I felt it was blatant. In turn, you fixed it. Goggs + Knight > Korver + Bell + Diaw + Davis + Emeka + Deron Williams?
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:20:18 GMT -5
Okay. You had Korver and Bell in your DC. You didnt have Googs or Knight in your DC. Googs + Knight > Korver + Bell. I PMD you because I felt it was blatant. In turn, you fixed it. you're bitching over his bench? And you have nothing to say about Duce's starters? Im not bitching, Im stating my opinion. And in my opinion none of Duces small players are obviously better then each other. Therefore whoever he started, I wouldnt Pm him about tanking, because they are all similar players.
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:20:43 GMT -5
Because youre the commish... but if I was blatanly trying to tank, why on earth would I have my best players playing multiple times. Like I said, if you have players that are obviously worse, playing over players that are obviously better, Im gonna PM you about tanking. End of story. I dont care if you play your best players 40 minutes a night, if the backups on your DC are worse then guys on your IL, Ill PM you. Well if that's the case, I think the tanking rule should be modified.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:21:05 GMT -5
Okay. You had Korver and Bell in your DC. You didnt have Googs or Knight in your DC. Googs + Knight > Korver + Bell. I PMD you because I felt it was blatant. In turn, you fixed it. Goggs + Knight > Korver + Bell + Diaw + Davis + Emeka + Deron Williams? Youre completely missing my point, and I dont know how to better explain it so Im gonna let it go with my opinion being different then yours.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:21:27 GMT -5
Like I said, if you have players that are obviously worse, playing over players that are obviously better, Im gonna PM you about tanking. End of story. I dont care if you play your best players 40 minutes a night, if the backups on your DC are worse then guys on your IL, Ill PM you. Well if that's the case, I think the tanking rule should be modified. I think its fine as is.
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Post by aaronjh on Sept 2, 2007 14:21:28 GMT -5
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Post by aaronjh on Sept 2, 2007 14:22:12 GMT -5
What's up guys!!!
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:22:53 GMT -5
Goggs + Knight > Korver + Bell + Diaw + Davis + Emeka + Deron Williams? Youre completely missing my point, and I dont know how to better explain it so Im gonna let it go with my opinion being different then yours. I understand your point, tom gulgiotta is a servicable back up and he wasn't backing up. But I think that a lineup of: Diaw-Kover-Diaw, Davis-SG-Davis, Amare-PF-Emeka, is better than Diaw-Gugliotta-Vet FA.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:22:55 GMT -5
I still think Dave and Hernando are out of line, so Duce, I apologize for the fact that this even came up. It definately sucks to have to be confronted with essentially cheating.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:23:53 GMT -5
Youre completely missing my point, and I dont know how to better explain it so Im gonna let it go with my opinion being different then yours. I understand your point, tom gulgiotta is a servicable back up and he wasn't backing up. But I think that a lineup of: Diaw-Kover-Diaw, Davis-SG-Davis, Amare-PF-Emeka, is better than Diaw-Gugliotta-Vet FA. For me, bottom line is this.... Diaw - Googs - Diaw Davis - Korver -Davis is better then what you had. I dont see how you can argue that.
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:24:27 GMT -5
I never made this a public issue until Duce called me a fuck. So it definitely sucks to have to be called a shitty name, when I haven't done anything to you.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:24:41 GMT -5
I just dont see how giving Korver minutes over Googs, or Bell minutes over Knight cant be seen as not playing your best players.
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Post by KruPaxson on Sept 2, 2007 14:25:21 GMT -5
Bitching is in the dictionary as complaining. You made a complaint about his DC
Duce you didn't do all you could to win if you did you would have removed the PG who leads the league in turnovers and tried out Felton there. Your team sucks, you weren't trying to win which is tanking. It's ok but just admit it, don't put on a front that you were doing all you could when you weren't.
Hernando tonights meeting of the fucks is at pushed back a half hour to 6:30. Point of agenda tonight is how to fuck with Duce's head
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Post by duce on Sept 2, 2007 14:25:43 GMT -5
I PMd Reilly an apology, just so everyone knows, I shouldn't have tried to show him up like that.
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:26:03 GMT -5
Spencer, I realize Gugliotta is better than Korver, but why on earth would I be giving extra playing time to Emeka, Diaw, Davis, and Deron Williams?
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:26:18 GMT -5
I never made this a public issue until Duce called me a fuck. So it definitely sucks to have to be called a shitty name, when I haven't done anything to you. Duce shouldnt have called anyone a fuck, its very immature, but this is a sensitive subject for him considering what happened in UOSL. I think Duce should apologize to hernando and Reilly for that cause it was uncalled for. Hernando, I told Duce about the tanking accusations because he recently quit UOSL for being accused of tanking, and I wanted to make a preemptive PM to Duce so that if it did blow up he knew I had his back. I didnt want to lose Duce over something like this.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:27:04 GMT -5
Spencer, I realize Gugliotta is better than Korver, but why on earth would I be giving extra playing time to Emeka, Diaw, Davis, and Deron Williams? LOL. K. My main point is this. If you play worse players, instead of better player, Ill have a problem with it.
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:27:05 GMT -5
I never made this a public issue until Duce called me a fuck. So it definitely sucks to have to be called a shitty name, when I haven't done anything to you.
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Post by nybombers3 on Sept 2, 2007 14:28:32 GMT -5
IB4TL
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Post by KruPaxson on Sept 2, 2007 14:28:56 GMT -5
I still think Dave and Hernando are out of line, so Duce, I apologize for the fact that this even came up. It definately sucks to have to be confronted with essentially cheating. You know what Spence you really have the blinders on sometimes and you really only see one side. Your blatant disrespect to both Hernando and I is wrong. Both you and Duce can go fuck yourselves go get confronted with that.
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