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Post by KruPaxson on Sept 2, 2007 14:04:16 GMT -5
baxter has been my best player this year. i expected him to contribute, maybe not this much but it's not like i signed some random scrub to an expiring... and i didn't need to make it a 10M deal to get over, i seriously wanted the guy. any guy you give the most touches to should have better or the best numbers but imagine if you gave Aldridge even more touches he might be cracking the 20ppg plateau.
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Post by duce on Sept 2, 2007 14:04:39 GMT -5
there's nothing available out there to my knowledge that would help my cause.
i didn't sign anyone because i wanted my young players to excel in TC and didn't want that interfered with. baxter fit the mold perfectly because he plays a position i didn't have. trading for joe smith was no different. i didn't want finley taking away from my SFs in camp.
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Post by KruPaxson on Sept 2, 2007 14:05:05 GMT -5
And you didn't want to sign anyone in days 4-5 with $11 million to spend? Or did you decide you would use that cap room to take on an expiring contract to help you win this season, and just forgot to do so? Duce isnt the first team to not use all his cap room. I dont get why people tend to try and gang up on someone. It gets old. who ganged up on him? I believe he just called out Hernando and Reilly for no reason. I was the only one on the offensive to Duce
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:05:38 GMT -5
Why are your opinions more valid then Duces? I don get why Dave and Hernando feel the need to manage Duces team.
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:06:03 GMT -5
But who doesn't use all their cap room when they're TRYING to win??
And when I was PMed it was because Tom Gugliotta and Brevin Knight were not in my starting lineup, instead I had Emekea, Diaw, Deron Williams, and Ricky Davis playing multiple positions.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:06:32 GMT -5
Duce isnt the first team to not use all his cap room. I dont get why people tend to try and gang up on someone. It gets old. who ganged up on him? I believe he just called out Hernando and Reilly for no reason. I was the only one on the offensive to Duce Duce knows Hernando complained about tanking. I think its pretty obvious in this thread that Hernando thinks Duce should do things differently.
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Post by aaron2344 on Sept 2, 2007 14:07:18 GMT -5
who ganged up on him? I believe he just called out Hernando and Reilly for no reason. I was the only one on the offensive to Duce Duce knows Hernando complained about tanking. I think its pretty obvious in this thread that Hernando thinks Duce should do things differently. What the hell did I do!?
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:07:21 GMT -5
Why are your opinions more valid then Duces? I don get why Dave and Hernando feel the need to manage Duces team. I haven't said my opinion is more valid, I think it's highly laughable that someone who is winning 20 games continues to say he is TRYING to win, when he (in my opinion is not, and he shouldn't be trying to win!)
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:07:32 GMT -5
But who doesn't use all their cap room when they're TRYING to win?? And when I was PMed it was because Tom Gugliotta and Brevin Knight were not in my starting lineup, instead I had Emekea, Diaw, Deron Williams, and Ricky Davis playing multiple positions. No, it was because Googs and Knight were on the IL, while Korver and Bell were in your DC. Who said Duce was trying to win this year? He obviously isnt trying to win, but he didnt try and tank.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:08:26 GMT -5
Duce knows Hernando complained about tanking. I think its pretty obvious in this thread that Hernando thinks Duce should do things differently. What the hell did I do!? I think Dave's angry with you because you arent more vocally backing him.
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Post by KruPaxson on Sept 2, 2007 14:08:42 GMT -5
To sum all things up, Duce, if you don't think by playing bad defenders over players that are better defensively while being just as good if not better offensively that isn't tanking I don't know what to say. They're not just as good offensively. Not at all. And I think that's what it ultimately comes down to... you thought those players are what I wished they were. I tried almost the same idea as you posted on day damn 1(day, damn, 1, ). It did not work. Most of them are better bench players. Who changes a DC after 7 games? Could you really tell what your team was capable of. Apparently you could if you felt it was wise to change. So 2-5 after first sim...well that put you on pace for around 30 wins so that DC was indeed better.
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Post by aaron2344 on Sept 2, 2007 14:09:06 GMT -5
What did I do to Duce?
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Post by duce on Sept 2, 2007 14:09:07 GMT -5
But who doesn't use all their cap room when they're TRYING to win?? And when I was PMed it was because Tom Gugliotta and Brevin Knight were not in my starting lineup, instead I had Emekea, Diaw, Deron Williams, and Ricky Davis playing multiple positions. i tried to win with what i had. i guess in that sense you could say i was "trying not to tank"... but it doesn't matter. in the season i made the finals my team was much better defensively and the pressure i used was very minimal. if that doesn't justify it for you then i have nothing more to say about it.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:09:36 GMT -5
Why are your opinions more valid then Duces? I don get why Dave and Hernando feel the need to manage Duces team. I haven't said my opinion is more valid, I think it's highly laughable that someone who is winning 20 games continues to say he is TRYING to win, when he (in my opinion is not, and he shouldn't be trying to win!) Hes trying to win based on what he has. he isnt trying to acquire talent or mortgage his future for a quick ix. Its completely okay to rebuild in a timely fashion.
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Post by aaron2344 on Sept 2, 2007 14:09:55 GMT -5
i'm still waiting for duce to explain to hernando and me why we're "fucks"
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:10:24 GMT -5
They're not just as good offensively. Not at all. And I think that's what it ultimately comes down to... you thought those players are what I wished they were. I tried almost the same idea as you posted on day damn 1(day, damn, 1, ). It did not work. Most of them are better bench players. Who changes a DC after 7 games? Could you really tell what your team was capable of. Apparently you could if you felt it was wise to change. So 2-5 after first sim...well that put you on pace for around 30 wins so that DC was indeed better. Lots of people change DCs constantly. Even when Duce won he changed his DC almost every sim.
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:10:36 GMT -5
But who doesn't use all their cap room when they're TRYING to win?? And when I was PMed it was because Tom Gugliotta and Brevin Knight were not in my starting lineup, instead I had Emekea, Diaw, Deron Williams, and Ricky Davis playing multiple positions. No, it was because Googs and Knight were on the IL, while Korver and Bell were in your DC. Who said Duce was trying to win this year? He obviously isnt trying to win, but he didnt try and tank. bballsim06.proboards89.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=dcarchives&thread=1182212004&page=1(scroll to the bottom) Honestly, that's worse than Duce's???
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:11:31 GMT -5
i'm still waiting for duce to explain to hernando and me why we're "fucks" Duce recently got called out in another league for tanking, so Im guessing its a sore subject for him. Aaron hasnt done anything here to justify any type of name calling. I can understand why Duce is frustrated with Hernando and Dave though.
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Post by duce on Sept 2, 2007 14:11:52 GMT -5
They're not just as good offensively. Not at all. And I think that's what it ultimately comes down to... you thought those players are what I wished they were. I tried almost the same idea as you posted on day damn 1(day, damn, 1, ). It did not work. Most of them are better bench players. Who changes a DC after 7 games? Could you really tell what your team was capable of. Apparently you could if you felt it was wise to change. So 2-5 after first sim...well that put you on pace for around 30 wins so that DC was indeed better. lol are you listening to yourself? that wouldn't even put me on pace for 25 wins. why would i be satisfied with that pace?
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:12:48 GMT -5
IMO, playing Korver and Bell over Googs and Knight was substantially worse. Especially since you had just acquired them and placed them on IL.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:14:10 GMT -5
It sucks if anyones opinion varies from mine, because in the end, I do what I thinks best. Not once have I even considered PMing Duce for tanking this year.
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Post by garf2000 on Sept 2, 2007 14:14:29 GMT -5
I didnt have them on the IL, i didnt have them listed ANYWHERE, I forgot to have Gugliotta in my lineup! I had Diaw, Deron, Davis, and Emeka playing multiple times... how is that worse!
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Post by KruPaxson on Sept 2, 2007 14:14:43 GMT -5
Who changes a DC after 7 games? Could you really tell what your team was capable of. Apparently you could if you felt it was wise to change. So 2-5 after first sim...well that put you on pace for around 30 wins so that DC was indeed better. lol are you listening to yourself? that wouldn't even put me on pace for 25 wins. why would i be satisfied with that pace? oops i meant to say 25 which it would put you near
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Post by KruPaxson on Sept 2, 2007 14:15:27 GMT -5
It sucks if anyones opinion varies from mine, because in the end, I do what I thinks best. Not once have I even considered PMing Duce for tanking this year. go put your fidel sig back up
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Post by Spencer on Sept 2, 2007 14:16:12 GMT -5
I didnt have them on the IL, i didnt have them listed ANYWHERE, I forgot to have Gugliotta in my lineup! I had Diaw, Deron, Davis, and Emeka playing multiple times... how is that worse! Okay. You had Korver and Bell in your DC. You didnt have Googs or Knight in your DC. Googs + Knight > Korver + Bell. I PMD you because I felt it was blatant. In turn, you fixed it.
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