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Post by Spencer on May 1, 2007 18:51:15 GMT -5
Well we need to develop something to make winning, or trying to win the thing to do. At least 5 teams full out tank each year so we will have new anti tank rules this year. I want GMs to fear losing their spot if they have mediocre activity, or sit on a crappy team. You need to try and win. Thats the point. If not, we have 5 Gms that could step in at any time.
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Post by Skillz on May 1, 2007 19:51:46 GMT -5
does going for youth count?
We're not tanking but it's hard to win with our young lineup, will we be penalized for that?
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Post by Spencer on May 1, 2007 19:52:32 GMT -5
Youll need to have some sort of progression. You cant just sit with youth for 5 years and win 35 a year.
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Post by Skillz on May 1, 2007 20:04:04 GMT -5
yea, of course
this was my first year, but i like the young core we have
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Post by Spencer on May 1, 2007 20:06:19 GMT -5
I think youre doing a good job.
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Post by Dan on May 1, 2007 20:17:35 GMT -5
I will sit on all the youth I god damn want too.
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Post by djmyte on May 1, 2007 22:20:30 GMT -5
hate it. i'd say a lot of times people rebuild because they can't make the playoffs and their team isn't good enough. i know it's a case by case basis but w/e. The thing is this... teams will tank for 3 years to get top draft picks... but wont attempt to sign good FAs that can help them win games and wont make trades for players that can help them win games. 3 offseasons is plenty of time to build up a good foundation. You can't tank in the NBA for 5 seasons, not try to sign quality FA's and not make any trades and keep your job. Well, not unless your name is Isiah...
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Post by Outlawz on May 1, 2007 22:38:10 GMT -5
It kinda fucks people that this is being implemented now. Personally it wont hurt me but everyone thought it was 3 seasons now all of a sudden you get 2 if you dont meet your goal. Pig didn't have his pick but he was trying to win. Was he supposed to just fuck up his plan like did with that Ford deal for a new rule? I mean it will help him now but he also gave up some future picks.
This should be applied 2 seasons from now after 3 seasons have passed since the whole direction board has been implemented. Not fair to do it now AFTER the season was done with.
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Post by aaronjh on May 1, 2007 22:42:33 GMT -5
It kinda fucks people that this is being implemented now. Personally it wont hurt me but everyone thought it was 3 seasons now all of a sudden you get 2 if you dont meet your goal. Pig didn't have his pick but he was trying to win. Was he supposed to just fuck up his plan like did with that Ford deal for a new rule? I mean it will help him now but he also gave up some future picks. This should be applied 2 seasons from now after 3 seasons have passed since the whole direction board has been implemented. Not fair to do it now AFTER the season was done with. Very good point.
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Post by djmyte on May 1, 2007 22:48:52 GMT -5
It kinda fucks people that this is being implemented now. Personally it wont hurt me but everyone thought it was 3 seasons now all of a sudden you get 2 if you dont meet your goal. Pig didn't have his pick but he was trying to win. Was he supposed to just fuck up his plan like did with that Ford deal for a new rule? I mean it will help him now but he also gave up some future picks. This should be applied 2 seasons from now after 3 seasons have passed since the whole direction board has been implemented. Not fair to do it now AFTER the season was done with. He wasnt forced to make any trade. He reacted now, his choice. As long as teams show the effort and progress from year to year, they are basically safe. BUT, when you state you are going to make the playoffs and you fail, there should be some sort of consequence. Spencer wanted to make sure we didnt have 5+ teams that are all in full out tank mode at the same time and/or teams just sitting on young talent, content to just wait without trying to do anything to help their teams win games now.
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Post by Adelaide on May 1, 2007 23:02:52 GMT -5
It kinda fucks people that this is being implemented now. Personally it wont hurt me but everyone thought it was 3 seasons now all of a sudden you get 2 if you dont meet your goal. Pig didn't have his pick but he was trying to win. Was he supposed to just fuck up his plan like did with that Ford deal for a new rule? I mean it will help him now but he also gave up some future picks. This should be applied 2 seasons from now after 3 seasons have passed since the whole direction board has been implemented. Not fair to do it now AFTER the season was done with. BUT, when you state you are going to make the playoffs and you fail, there should be some sort of consequence. That could be the most idiotic statement I have ever heard on this board. In what other league do you have to state whether you are gonna be a contender or not let alone have consequences for it. Honestly if you are a middle of the road team how the hell are you gonna know whether you make the playoffs are not in the beginning of the season or you have a strong team and some of your players get injured and you end up missing the playoffs. There should never be consequences for that. At the beginning of the season I thought we had a shot at being a legit 7 or 8 team comparing my team to the rest of the West and my team from the year before.
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Post by Outlawz on May 1, 2007 23:23:13 GMT -5
It kinda fucks people that this is being implemented now. Personally it wont hurt me but everyone thought it was 3 seasons now all of a sudden you get 2 if you dont meet your goal. Pig didn't have his pick but he was trying to win. Was he supposed to just fuck up his plan like did with that Ford deal for a new rule? I mean it will help him now but he also gave up some future picks. This should be applied 2 seasons from now after 3 seasons have passed since the whole direction board has been implemented. Not fair to do it now AFTER the season was done with. He wasnt forced to make any trade. He reacted now, his choice. As long as teams show the effort and progress from year to year, they are basically safe. BUT, when you state you are going to make the playoffs and you fail, there should be some sort of consequence. Spencer wanted to make sure we didnt have 5+ teams that are all in full out tank mode at the same time and/or teams just sitting on young talent, content to just wait without trying to do anything to help their teams win games now. Still forced his hand whether it was now or later in the season. I understand what Spence is trying to do but like i said it should be enforced in 2 seasons not now. Only fair way to do it. Tanking is such a big deal in this league. In every league theres always teams tanking in this league it's just more obvious because of the activity among us.
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Post by djmyte on May 1, 2007 23:28:49 GMT -5
BUT, when you state you are going to make the playoffs and you fail, there should be some sort of consequence. That could be the most idiotic statement I have ever heard on this board. In what other league do you have to state whether you are gonna be a contender or not let alone have consequences for it. Honestly if you are a middle of the road team how the hell are you gonna know whether you make the playoffs are not in the beginning of the season or you have a strong team and some of your players get injured and you end up missing the playoffs. There should never be consequences for that. At the beginning of the season I thought we had a shot at being a legit 7 or 8 team comparing my team to the rest of the West and my team from the year before. Speaking of idiotic statements... "In what other league do you have to state whether you are gonna be a contender or not let alone have consequences for it." Classic BBS forum material... for sure. You werent even close to contending for a playoff spot and the 7th and 8th seeds in the West were both under .500. You failed to meet your OWN expectations. The consequence is that you need to show improvement sooner. No one forced you to do anything. You could have waited for FA, TC, and for the season to start to judge how your team was going to perform. You decided to make a trade at this time, no one else decided for you. The expectation is that teams show improvement and a legit effort to improve from year to year. There is nothing unfair or impossible about this.
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Post by Spencer on May 1, 2007 23:41:39 GMT -5
Pig, this is the BBS, so it doesnt matter what other leagues do. Youve done a pretty bad job so far, I cant see you being able to disagree with this. You probably wont get fired regardless of what you do, but itd be nice to see you make a concerted effort to win. You just sat on your team for almost the whole year, and only made 1 really big trade with me.
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Post by duce on May 1, 2007 23:56:46 GMT -5
hate it. i'd say a lot of times people rebuild because they can't make the playoffs and their team isn't good enough. i know it's a case by case basis but w/e. The thing is this... teams will tank for 3 years to get top draft picks... but wont attempt to sign good FAs that can help them win games and wont make trades for players that can help them win games. 3 offseasons is plenty of time to build up a good foundation. You can't tank in the NBA for 5 seasons, not try to sign quality FA's and not make any trades and keep your job. Well, not unless your name is Isiah... i understand, and no offense, but didn't YOU do all of this...? i know this can't be an accepted part of the league but to just suddenly draw the line in the sand with this particular rule puzzles me. all i'm saying is that it's a fact that teams that can't make the playoffs generally decide they're going to tear it down. it's not like when the clippers decides to tear it down and decides they don't wanna win anymore. these teams are doing the realistic thing and getting punished now. i can't say i like it.
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Post by Spencer on May 2, 2007 0:03:00 GMT -5
If you win, you dont have to worry about it.
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Post by Adelaide on May 2, 2007 0:05:02 GMT -5
That could be the most idiotic statement I have ever heard on this board. In what other league do you have to state whether you are gonna be a contender or not let alone have consequences for it. Honestly if you are a middle of the road team how the hell are you gonna know whether you make the playoffs are not in the beginning of the season or you have a strong team and some of your players get injured and you end up missing the playoffs. There should never be consequences for that. At the beginning of the season I thought we had a shot at being a legit 7 or 8 team comparing my team to the rest of the West and my team from the year before. Speaking of idiotic statements... "In what other league do you have to state whether you are gonna be a contender or not let alone have consequences for it." Classic BBS forum material... for sure. Right up there with all the pictures of half naked Asian chicks.
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Post by Spencer on May 2, 2007 0:11:54 GMT -5
The new rules are good. They should create activity, and promote winning, which is the whole point.
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Post by Outlawz on May 2, 2007 0:20:46 GMT -5
The thing is this... teams will tank for 3 years to get top draft picks... but wont attempt to sign good FAs that can help them win games and wont make trades for players that can help them win games. 3 offseasons is plenty of time to build up a good foundation. You can't tank in the NBA for 5 seasons, not try to sign quality FA's and not make any trades and keep your job. Well, not unless your name is Isiah... i understand, and no offense, but didn't YOU do all of this...? . I thought the same thing. Kinda ironic.
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Post by Spencer on May 2, 2007 0:22:32 GMT -5
DJ new he was gonna shit for being the tanking admin, but hes done a good job, and will continue to do a good job. When it comes down to it, its my rules, so if you wanna be angry at someone, be angry at me.
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Post by djmyte on May 2, 2007 0:22:56 GMT -5
I'm not making the rules. Everything goes through Spencer. So if that is ironic, then ok.
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Post by Adelaide on May 2, 2007 0:24:18 GMT -5
This has probaly been one of the worst days for me in a long time.
-Warriors lost
-Didnt get in a fight at the rival high school lax game like I did at the hockey game
-The random prom date I asked when I was absolutley shitfaced Saturday said she cant go anymore.
-Failed every test I took today
-Played a shitty round of Golf
-Lost a game of 2k7
-Didnt get to pick in UOSL yet because some douche bags dont check
In essence
-I need to pack a lip
-I need to beat the shit out of Basone (in 2k7) for personal pleasure because of my insecurities
-Spence is angry because we blew it with 3 minutes left
- Still love you
- DJ is still a hypocritical cunt-bag
Thats all
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Post by djmyte on May 2, 2007 0:24:20 GMT -5
Spencer... Ive never ran a league but seriously, props for putting up with all the shit that you deal with (for the last 7 years or however long it has been).
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Post by Spencer on May 2, 2007 0:26:36 GMT -5
Spencer... Ive never ran a league but seriously, props for putting up with all the shit that you deal with (for the last 7 years or however long it has been). Um, ya, sometimes I wonder why I do it. But it all ends up okay, cause I think my first instincts are usually pretty good.
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Post by Spencer on May 2, 2007 0:27:34 GMT -5
Where the fuck is Aig?
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