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Jul 16, 2007 0:28:53 GMT -5
Post by James on Jul 16, 2007 0:28:53 GMT -5
Umm, Gilbert Arenas just died.
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Jul 16, 2007 0:31:29 GMT -5
Post by nybombers3 on Jul 16, 2007 0:31:29 GMT -5
At least Hinrich is a beast.
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Jul 16, 2007 0:34:03 GMT -5
Post by nova on Jul 16, 2007 0:34:03 GMT -5
Man, I may regret trading Outlaw. He looks sick.
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Jul 16, 2007 0:36:45 GMT -5
Post by nova on Jul 16, 2007 0:36:45 GMT -5
Jesus. Jose Calderon.
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Jul 16, 2007 0:40:04 GMT -5
Post by cjmjones008 on Jul 16, 2007 0:40:04 GMT -5
Biedrins B- D+ C- B+ B- A B D C- B+ B B
I was hoping for him to go up in defense but rebounding is nice.
Griffin C+ C+ C B B- B C+ C+ C- B+ B C
Griffins improvement was the highlight of this TC. I feel like he is legit starter and just not a guy who was a good presence now.
Bosh A- C C- B+ B A B+ C C- B+ B A
More disappointment from Bosh... Hopefully he went up in other areas and it didnt show but who knows
Diogu B C C- C+ B- A B C C- B- B- B
Diogu was an amazing scorer last year so hopefully some defensive improvemtn will help him develop into a starter
Othella B+ D+ D B- B C B D+ D C+ B C
he is just here for cap filler and appears to be on downside of career very quickly
Mahinmi C+ D+ D+ B B- B B- C- D+ B B- C
I drafted Ian to be a defensive backup and he goes up in offense... great
Szymon B- C+ C C B- C B- B C C B C
Big suprise here.... Szymon has always been a good scorer but hes looking great now
Delfino C+ B- C- B+ C B C B C- A- C B
defensive backup who got better at what we need
Balkman B C C B B- C B C C B+ B- C
I wasnt sure what to expect from Balkman with C scouted potential but going up in D is nice. Hopefully some RC help will make him a great defender
Morrison C+ B+ C C D B C+ A- C C D+ A
Ammo probably greatly increased his trade value with this TC. I saw him as a Ben Gordon type of player and looks like thats exactly what he is going to be
Melo B A B+ C+ C+ A B+ A B C+ C+ B
Up in inside is amazing... I think he will be a top 3 scorer this year hopefully his TO wont go up with decreased handles
Salmons C+ B+ C A- C- C C+ B+ C A- C- C
backup who somehow makes me win if i start him... its going to be harder than ever to do that now
Kapono C A- C C D+ C C A- C C D+ D
amazing bench scorer who is topped out... i will never get good value for him but oh well
Nelson C+ A- A- B- C B C+ A- A- C+ C C
I consider Nelson's TC more disappointing then Bosh just because we needed more defense from him and he got worse. I think he still has some potential left I was just hoping for help this year.
Sergio C C+ B+ C D+ A C B- B+ C+ D+ A
He has a ways to go but I took him based on potential and I've got to like what I see so far
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Jul 16, 2007 0:43:21 GMT -5
Post by GP on Jul 16, 2007 0:43:21 GMT -5
NJ Nets...Point Guard Central #2
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Jul 16, 2007 1:04:42 GMT -5
Post by aaron2344 on Jul 16, 2007 1:04:42 GMT -5
Love the TC for our team...
Darko is looking like my new starting PF -- B/A-/B+, still only 21 David Lee had himself a great camp -- B-/B-/B+, a year or so away from seriously contributing Andrew Bynum - hate losing Shaq, but this is helping me long term, B/B-/B at 19, still A potential Artest/Prince stayed the same, which I love CV is B+ inside with B rebounding, very nice for a SF -- still have 3 upgrades, as well LBJ - up in defense, have to use an upgrade on him this year -- definitely a 20+ ppg scorer Ford - stayed the same, definitely my starting pg. looking for some nice things
We're not ready yet. We need another two seasons to become a serious contender. We'll get our 45 wins, and duck out in the first or second round, but I really do like how this team is heading.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:05:41 GMT -5
Post by nova on Jul 16, 2007 1:05:41 GMT -5
Love the TC for our team... Darko is looking like my new starting PF -- B/A-/B+, still only 21 David Lee had himself a great camp -- B-/B-/B+, a year or so away from seriously contributing Andrew Bynum - hate losing Shaq, but this is helping me long term, B/B-/B at 19, still A potential Artest/Prince stayed the same, which I love CV is B+ inside with B rebounding, very nice for a SF -- still have 3 upgrades, as well LBJ - up in defense, have to use an upgrade on him this year -- definitely a 20+ ppg scorer Ford - stayed the same, definitely my starting pg. looking for some nice things We're not ready yet. We need another two seasons to become a serious contender. We'll get our 45 wins, and duck out in the first or second round, but I really do like how this team is heading. Just so you know, LBJ has already had 3 RC's used on him.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:07:30 GMT -5
Post by James on Jul 16, 2007 1:07:30 GMT -5
Love the TC for our team... Darko is looking like my new starting PF -- B/A-/B+, still only 21 David Lee had himself a great camp -- B-/B-/B+, a year or so away from seriously contributing Andrew Bynum - hate losing Shaq, but this is helping me long term, B/B-/B at 19, still A potential Artest/Prince stayed the same, which I love CV is B+ inside with B rebounding, very nice for a SF -- still have 3 upgrades, as well LBJ - up in defense, have to use an upgrade on him this year -- definitely a 20+ ppg scorer Ford - stayed the same, definitely my starting pg. looking for some nice things We're not ready yet. We need another two seasons to become a serious contender. We'll get our 45 wins, and duck out in the first or second round, but I really do like how this team is heading. Just so you know, LBJ has already had 3 RC's used on him. Thats what I thought...
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Jul 16, 2007 1:08:32 GMT -5
Post by nybombers3 on Jul 16, 2007 1:08:32 GMT -5
I wonder what kinda contract LBJ would get in the open market.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:09:32 GMT -5
Post by nova on Jul 16, 2007 1:09:32 GMT -5
I wonder what kinda contract LBJ would get in the open market. I mean, the way I see it, at best, he ends up: B A C+ B C+ B...a pretty good player, but not a player to build a team around like people thought he would be.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:09:51 GMT -5
Post by duce on Jul 16, 2007 1:09:51 GMT -5
I wonder what kinda contract LBJ would get in the open market. well, we both know it'd be MAX. even if undeserved, which is debatable stuff.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:11:14 GMT -5
Post by duce on Jul 16, 2007 1:11:14 GMT -5
I wonder what kinda contract LBJ would get in the open market. I mean, the way I see it, at best, he ends up: B A C+ B C+ B...a pretty good player, but not a player to build a team around like people thought he would be. you wouldn't build your team around that? i definitely wouldn't mind it.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:12:32 GMT -5
Post by nova on Jul 16, 2007 1:12:32 GMT -5
I mean, he's a very good player, but for me, a franchise player has to be a good defender as well, at least A-.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:12:50 GMT -5
Post by aaron2344 on Jul 16, 2007 1:12:50 GMT -5
Just so you know, LBJ has already had 3 RC's used on him. Thats what I thought... my bad, i guess the player list isn't updated, as he's only listed with two.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:15:17 GMT -5
Post by nova on Jul 16, 2007 1:15:17 GMT -5
my bad, i guess the player list isn't updated, as he's only listed with two. Check the 2nd post of the thread...his third one is from last year.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:15:41 GMT -5
Post by duce on Jul 16, 2007 1:15:41 GMT -5
I mean, he's a very good player, but for me, a franchise player has to be a good defender as well, at least A-. i'd rather have C+ B C+ than C A C to be honest withcha. give me an all-around player any day.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:17:23 GMT -5
Post by aaron2344 on Jul 16, 2007 1:17:23 GMT -5
i'm still holding out hope. jj went up quite a bit in one tc, and i'm confident lebron will follow with similar results.
either way, i'm hoping for a generous last chance offer. free agency would be very interesting if he hit the open market.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:18:16 GMT -5
Post by nova on Jul 16, 2007 1:18:16 GMT -5
I mean, he's a very good player, but for me, a franchise player has to be a good defender as well, at least A-. i'd rather have C+ B C+ than C A C to be honest withcha. give me an all-around player any day. I'd definitely take C A C. He's still a decent ball handler/rebounder(not great, but decent), and a MUCH better defender. For example, I'd rather have Marvin Williams then LeBron James.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:21:01 GMT -5
Post by duce on Jul 16, 2007 1:21:01 GMT -5
ya i figured you did nova, based on when we talk. it's just a difference of philosophy and opinion. i'm not saying anyone is wrong... i just think those ratings were very nice.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:24:44 GMT -5
Post by nova on Jul 16, 2007 1:24:44 GMT -5
ya i figured you did nova, based on when we talk. it's just a difference of philosophy and opinion. i'm not saying anyone is wrong... i just think those ratings were very nice. Yeah, I'm not saying their not nice, but I just prefer great defense...and it's not as if C to C+ is a tremendous difference, whereas B to A is a big difference.
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Jul 16, 2007 1:25:13 GMT -5
Post by aigatdula on Jul 16, 2007 1:25:13 GMT -5
Tyson Chandler C 23 7'3'' 247 B- C- C- A- A- B Tyson Chandler C 23 7'3'' 247 B- C- C- A A- B - he further improved his defense, nice...
Danny Fortson PF 30 6'8'' 269 B+ C- D C+ A C Danny Fortson PF 30 6'8'' 269 B+ C- D+ B- A C - improves is handles, and defense, WOW
Antawn Jamison SF 30 6'9'' 233 B+ C+ C A B- C Antawn Jamison SF 30 6'9'' 233 B+ C+ C+ A- B- C - improves his handles, declines in defense, i can take it
Keith Van Horn SF 31 6'10'' 246 B B- D+ B C+ C Keith Van Horn SF 31 6'10'' 246 B B- D+ B C+ C -stay the same, he'd still be servicable
Marquis Daniels SG 25 6'6'' 200 B B+ C+ B+ C B Marquis Daniels SG 25 6'6'' 200 B A- B- A- C C - love it...! improves his outside, handles and defense, studly!
Steve Nash PG 32 6'3'' 195 C A B+ B C- C Steve Nash PG 32 6'3'' 195 C- A B+ B+ D+ C - lost inside and rebs, but gained defense.. hang in there my man...
> pretty descent TC for us.... just need to make a push this year, make or break...
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Jul 16, 2007 1:25:48 GMT -5
Post by James on Jul 16, 2007 1:25:48 GMT -5
I mean, he's a very good player, but for me, a franchise player has to be a good defender as well, at least A-. i'd rather have C+ B C+ than C A C to be honest withcha. give me an all-around player any day. You mean like Baron Davis? A- A- A- A D+ C ? ;D
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Jul 16, 2007 1:40:08 GMT -5
Post by aigatdula on Jul 16, 2007 1:40:08 GMT -5
BD is studly!!!
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Jul 16, 2007 1:42:10 GMT -5
Post by nybombers3 on Jul 16, 2007 1:42:10 GMT -5
i'd rather have C+ B C+ than C A C to be honest withcha. give me an all-around player any day. You mean like Baron Davis? A- A- A- A D+ C ? ;D He sucks.
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