|
Post by ducky on Jun 26, 2007 22:54:33 GMT -5
How about looking at some stats before going for the name kidd as now hinrich is better in all stats lets look Jason Kidd PG 24 38.2 7.6 5.1 9.9 1.8 0.2 2.8 .450 .854 .250 Kirk Hinrich PG 37 40.0 13.1 5.5 10.5 2.1 0.1 2.0 .442 .793 .376 um you forgot something Kidd's team>Kirk's team tada!
|
|
|
Post by aaron2344 on Jun 26, 2007 22:55:17 GMT -5
First off, Grizz aren't even the worst in the West. Anyways, CP3 is on a bad team but I guess his value should be diminished to? Be serious. Kidd wouldn't make that team any better. Grizzlies have problems but they sure as hell aren't at the PG spot. Also aaron, I hope that 12 apg stat is from this year, otherwise it isn't valid. it was an example of what kidd is capable of doing if he's an option, and due to the fact kidd hasn't declined in production since being taken off as an option, i'll say it's pretty valid as well
|
|
|
Post by nybombers3 on Jun 26, 2007 22:55:21 GMT -5
First off, Grizz aren't even the worst in the West. Anyways, CP3 is on a bad team but I guess his value should be diminished to? Be serious. Kidd wouldn't make that team any better. Grizzlies have problems but they sure as hell aren't at the PG spot. Also aaron, I hope that 12 apg stat is from this year, otherwise it isn't valid. ok basically this. Put Hinrich on Grizz they don't make playoffs, put Kidd on Grizz, automatic playoff spot for sure. and how exactly did you come to this?
|
|
|
Post by bossplaya on Jun 26, 2007 22:56:12 GMT -5
hinrich is on the worst fucking team in the league and doing those numbers. congrats. while kidd is on one of the best teams in the league and putting up solid numbers. not to mention he has a young point guard behind him named TJ ford. being that the grizzlies are so bad, wouldnt that say something about hinrich tho....that its pretty impressive to have that high of an assist # on such a bad team......not like his points or anything are inflated. just sayin!
|
|
|
Post by d2acollectables on Jun 26, 2007 22:56:15 GMT -5
I rather be fired then the kill the team by trading hinrich a future and already better than kidd type player for jason kidd straight up.
|
|
|
Post by nybombers3 on Jun 26, 2007 22:56:29 GMT -5
First off, Grizz aren't even the worst in the West. Anyways, CP3 is on a bad team but I guess his value should be diminished to? Be serious. Kidd wouldn't make that team any better. Grizzlies have problems but they sure as hell aren't at the PG spot. Also aaron, I hope that 12 apg stat is from this year, otherwise it isn't valid. it was an example of what kidd is capable of doing if he's an option, and due to the fact kidd hasn't declined in production since being taken off as an option, i'll say it's pretty valid as well You said no past and no future. Just this year. This year, Hinrich is doing better and as is, there really is no legit proof this year to argue that.
|
|
|
Post by Dan on Jun 26, 2007 22:56:52 GMT -5
im sorry the grizzlies are the second worst team in the west.
|
|
|
Post by JDawg on Jun 26, 2007 22:57:16 GMT -5
very true, kidd isn't even an option and he's still putting up very solid numbers, in addition to at his increased age. Kidd can be MVP candidate Hinrich never will be one.
|
|
|
Post by duce on Jun 26, 2007 22:57:44 GMT -5
u take kidd off detr and then they become an OK playoff team. Take Hinrich off memphis, well thats a bad example, since there is no talent surrounding. But anyway, they'd basically be the same. you're damn right it's a bad example, wtf are you talking about? take kidd off detroit and you have tj ford. i wouldn't call ford proven or anything but they're a playoff team regardless. take hinrich off memphis, and d2a is possibly fired.
|
|
|
Post by nybombers3 on Jun 26, 2007 22:58:24 GMT -5
im sorry the grizzlies are the second worst team in the west. and he had a 16 assist game (against your own team btw) followed by a 18 assist game. So. His team sucks ass but he's getting 15+ assist games. So. What exactly is wrong with the guy again?
|
|
|
Post by d2acollectables on Jun 26, 2007 22:58:39 GMT -5
i like having a pg with a 4/1 ration over a old pg with a 3/1 ratio and not to mention again hinrich gets more steals.
|
|
|
Post by Dan on Jun 26, 2007 22:59:32 GMT -5
he wouldnt do marbury for hinrich deal? are you fucking kidding me
|
|
|
Post by duce on Jun 26, 2007 22:59:33 GMT -5
hinrich is on the worst fucking team in the league and doing those numbers. congrats. while kidd is on one of the best teams in the league and putting up solid numbers. not to mention he has a young point guard behind him named TJ ford. being that the grizzlies are so bad, wouldnt that say something about hinrich tho....that its pretty impressive to have that high of an assist # on such a bad team......not like his points or anything are inflated. just sayin! and low turnovers. it's extremely impressive.
|
|
|
Post by Dan on Jun 26, 2007 23:00:48 GMT -5
im sorry the grizzlies are the second worst team in the west. and he had a 16 assist game (against your own team btw) followed by a 18 assist game. So. His team sucks ass but he's getting 15+ assist games. So. What exactly is wrong with the guy again? blazers=playoffs grizzlies=out of the playoffs
|
|
|
Post by aaron2344 on Jun 26, 2007 23:00:50 GMT -5
it was an example of what kidd is capable of doing if he's an option, and due to the fact kidd hasn't declined in production since being taken off as an option, i'll say it's pretty valid as well You said no past and no future. Just this year. This year, Hinrich is doing better and as is, there really is no legit proof this year to argue that. you're right, i meant to say not worry about the future, just this year. i just brought up the past to make a point what kidd can do when given the opportunity to touch the ball as much as hinrich. i understand your point, but that's just where we differ. hinrich, in my opinion, is having a better year stats wise because of the team he is on, the depth chart settings, and the opportunities he receives to touch the ball. that makes his numbers better than kidd's. that being said, you put kidd on a team where he controls the ball the majority of the time, doesn't have guys like shaq/artest/prince/darko taking away the majority of his touches, i just feel he will give the team a better chance than hinrich to win now.
|
|
|
Post by JDawg on Jun 26, 2007 23:01:45 GMT -5
he wouldnt do marbury for hinrich deal? are you fucking kidding me LMAO pathetic.
|
|
|
Post by nybombers3 on Jun 26, 2007 23:02:38 GMT -5
and he had a 16 assist game (against your own team btw) followed by a 18 assist game. So. His team sucks ass but he's getting 15+ assist games. So. What exactly is wrong with the guy again? blazers=playoffs grizzlies=out of the playoffs Doesn't take away from my point.
|
|
|
Post by JDawg on Jun 26, 2007 23:04:32 GMT -5
its your funeral D2A, shouldn't you at least go out in style saying that you tried to win instead of taking the approach of sucking on a BBS player's dick. oh well.
|
|
|
Post by d2acollectables on Jun 26, 2007 23:04:36 GMT -5
of course i wont deal hinrich for marbs straight up marbs plays horrible defense and i dont need scoring.
|
|
|
Post by Dan on Jun 26, 2007 23:05:03 GMT -5
blazers=playoffs grizzlies=out of the playoffs Doesn't take away from my point. the point is who gives a shit about what he did to my team one game, he needs to win now. he should start thinking about making trades. where was hinrich the first game of the season for him? hmmm... he should be thinking about saving his team and his job.
|
|
|
Post by James on Jun 26, 2007 23:05:28 GMT -5
Kidd. Easily. Kidd is a far superior player, playing on a far superior team so statistics should not really come into play in this debate. (ok he isn't superior, however he is better)
|
|
|
Post by d2acollectables on Jun 26, 2007 23:06:02 GMT -5
its your funeral D2A, shouldn't you at least go out in style saying that you tried to win instead of taking the approach of sucking on a BBS player's dick. oh well. Looks like your already sucking kidds dick off i think thats enough dick sucking for the league.
|
|
|
Post by Dan on Jun 26, 2007 23:06:27 GMT -5
of course i wont deal hinrich for marbs straight up marbs plays horrible defense and i dont need scoring. right your team lets up a 104 ppg and you score 100. you know what marbury does suck.. i dont even know why i have him.
|
|
|
Post by JDawg on Jun 26, 2007 23:07:09 GMT -5
marbury > hinrich no doubt. possibly Marbury > Kidd. but Hinrich > kidd is a ludacris statement in itself. "I feel dumber having had to listen to that stupid response. No where in your rambling did you even attempt to get to a coherent response. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.
|
|
|
Post by James on Jun 26, 2007 23:07:10 GMT -5
Btw, I'd take Hinrich over Kidd if I had the choice. If the league were to end at the conclusion of this season, I'd take Kidd.
|
|