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Post by gmgreggor on Apr 26, 2007 15:57:40 GMT -5
In the scientific community this is what is known as selective analysis. Just cherry pick stats to make your case and disregard the rest. None of those guys are the mavs future. I was referring to the Mavs nucleus of Dirk,Harris,Terry,Howard,Diop who are about the same age collectively as the Warriors. You mean in the who gives a fuck community? Spence summed it up. The Warriors are a much younger team than Dallas, point and period. Of course none of those guys are the Mavs "future" they're fricking over 30 years old. Wow, when in doubt throw out a few fucks and you sound smarter theory huh? Impressive. Anyway,are any of those guys you referenced a huge part of the team was my point there. Hell, they're just waiting for Damps contract to end so they can get him the hell out pretty much. They arent a lot younger if you look at the rosters except the Warriors have some younger spares than Dallas.. What, 2 yrs maybe? Hey, that is a lot. Here's the point, the Warriors arent gonna go on a dynasctic run. They arent significantly younger than any of the other Western teams in postseason right now except SA maybe, not just Dallas. And considering most of the other seeds have already been playing in postseason for awhile at a not much older age I'd say GS is behined the curve. To be honest, it wouldnt shock me at all if they didnt make postseason next year and they traded a lot of that team for what it's worth. Nellie is the main reason they're winning right now I think and if he gets tired of coaching again and leaves I think they are'nt near as good.
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Post by duce on Apr 26, 2007 16:13:00 GMT -5
well, i do think the mavs value dampier a lot. he's kind of up-and-down for what his contract is worth but he is an elite offensive rebounder and a good defensive presence and has a great effect on the game... overpaid or not.
other than that, i couldn't agree more.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 26, 2007 16:29:42 GMT -5
You mean in the who gives a fuck community? Spence summed it up. The Warriors are a much younger team than Dallas, point and period. Of course none of those guys are the Mavs "future" they're fricking over 30 years old. Wow, when in doubt throw out a few fucks and you sound smarter theory huh? Impressive. Anyway,are any of those guys you referenced a huge part of the team was my point there. Hell, they're just waiting for Damps contract to end so they can get him the hell out pretty much. They arent a lot younger if you look at the rosters except the Warriors have some younger spares than Dallas.. What, 2 yrs maybe? Hey, that is a lot. Here's the point, the Warriors arent gonna go on a dynasctic run. They arent significantly younger than any of the other Western teams in postseason right now except SA maybe, not just Dallas. And considering most of the other seeds have already been playing in postseason for awhile at a not much older age I'd say GS is behined the curve. To be honest, it wouldnt shock me at all if they didnt make postseason next year and they traded a lot of that team for what it's worth. Nellie is the main reason they're winning right now I think and if he gets tired of coaching again and leaves I think they are'nt near as good. I disagree with most of what youve said throughout this thread, so I feel its pointless to try and get into a discussion about it. I do feel like you undervalue the Warriors talent level though. Whatever, I feel like most casual basketball observers feel the Warriors were a fluke, and they suck, and they barely got into the playoffs. Being someone who has watched them all year you need to realize they basically had 2 different teams, the Mike D Murphy team and the Harrington SJAX team. they were considerably better once the trade happened, and I expect them to be considerably better next year.
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Post by The X-Factor on Apr 26, 2007 19:36:15 GMT -5
You mean in the who gives a fuck community? Spence summed it up. The Warriors are a much younger team than Dallas, point and period. Of course none of those guys are the Mavs "future" they're fricking over 30 years old. Wow, when in doubt throw out a few fucks and you sound smarter theory huh? Impressive. Anyway,are any of those guys you referenced a huge part of the team was my point there. Hell, they're just waiting for Damps contract to end so they can get him the hell out pretty much. They arent a lot younger if you look at the rosters except the Warriors have some younger spares than Dallas.. What, 2 yrs maybe? Hey, that is a lot. Here's the point, the Warriors arent gonna go on a dynasctic run. They arent significantly younger than any of the other Western teams in postseason right now except SA maybe, not just Dallas. And considering most of the other seeds have already been playing in postseason for awhile at a not much older age I'd say GS is behined the curve. To be honest, it wouldnt shock me at all if they didnt make postseason next year and they traded a lot of that team for what it's worth. Nellie is the main reason they're winning right now I think and if he gets tired of coaching again and leaves I think they are'nt near as good. No I'd rather stick with your let me use big words that make it sound like I know what I'm talking about theory.
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Post by gmgreggor on Apr 26, 2007 21:16:23 GMT -5
Well, you have to actually know some big words to use that theory.
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Post by duce on Apr 26, 2007 21:31:25 GMT -5
what does theory mean?
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Post by djmyte on Apr 26, 2007 22:13:26 GMT -5
Warriors are still in good shape... they just need to win the 1st at home.
I hate M. Cuban. What a piece.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 26, 2007 22:33:52 GMT -5
Ya. If they win tomorrow night I still think they have a legit shot at it. if they dont, I think its over.
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 27, 2007 23:38:22 GMT -5
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Post by duce on Apr 28, 2007 0:00:32 GMT -5
true.
dallas is getting beat by a faster, tougher and more physical team. it is what it is.
but like i was telling bizzles punk ass earlier, it's gonna be hard to win in golden state... that's why i said i could see a split here and then a 6 or 7 game series... offensive teams do great at home and the warriors home is usually pretty enthusiastic. to win 2 in a row would be hard... but even with that, what is currently happening is pretty much unacceptable still.
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Post by djmyte on Apr 28, 2007 0:26:18 GMT -5
that game was so exciting, i fell asleep. Cuban lost!! Yes!
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Post by Spencer on Apr 28, 2007 1:15:24 GMT -5
Good game. Crowd was pretty loud. Need to win Sunday.
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Post by gmgreggor on Apr 28, 2007 15:57:26 GMT -5
Dallas sucks, I'm thinking about moving just to save face. Dirk needs to get his butt down on the blocks and make GS pay for that small lineup. Dont know why he's playing so soft now.
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Post by duce on Apr 28, 2007 16:20:10 GMT -5
Dirk needs to get his butt down on the blocks and make GS pay for that small lineup. My feelings exactly. He needs to adjust and play like a center down low simply because that is what he is among the players in this series. I know he's used to playing like a tall guard offensively because that's what is profitable against MOST teams and causes great mismatches and such, but that is not the case with Golden State... and he and Avery Johnson need to adjust accordingly and use Dirk's height/rebounding and inside finishing to their advantage.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 28, 2007 23:41:46 GMT -5
Nelson > Avery.
The Warriors have made Dirk a jump shooter on a team with no true distributor.
How can Dirk have like 4 shots in the 2nd half?
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Post by gmgreggor on Apr 29, 2007 13:27:27 GMT -5
I think Avery's idea the first game with Dirk at C wasnt bad if Dirk will be content to play on the blocks. That'd open up the perimeter shooters since GS would have to double I'd think. Also GS has noone to match up with him there and the bigger guys they have would be in foul trouble trying I think but you have to have Dirk commit to it which he obviously wont. If Dallas loses this series it's not on Avery it's on Dirk because he wont do what he needs to win in my view.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 30, 2007 0:05:57 GMT -5
Wouldnt a good coach make him do it? I dont think this is Dirks fault. They lost again, not because of Dirk, but just because the Warriors may just be pretty damn good.
Once again, this team isnt a 42-40 team. They were the 2nd best team in basketball the last 6 weeks or so.
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Post by djmyte on Apr 30, 2007 0:28:14 GMT -5
Nelson is a beast. Especially when he has talented/athletic players to work with.
GST has had a lot of talent for awhile now... they should be a good team.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 30, 2007 0:29:09 GMT -5
I think they can be better next year. Ellis is so raw still. Biedrins too.
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Post by bossplaya on Apr 30, 2007 0:32:03 GMT -5
amazing game, great win for warriors.
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Post by duce on Apr 30, 2007 0:36:35 GMT -5
I think they can be better next year. Ellis is so raw still. Biedrins too. i mean, why even think about next year? if they're 3-1 over a supposed championship caliber team, you should be thinking about this year.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 30, 2007 0:38:02 GMT -5
Im still trying to help convince everyone this Warrior team is talented, as opposed to some amazing choke job by the Mavs.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 30, 2007 0:39:35 GMT -5
Mavs are just trying to not make the Heat feel too bad about themselves
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Post by Spencer on Apr 30, 2007 0:40:14 GMT -5
True.
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Post by duce on Apr 30, 2007 0:43:24 GMT -5
charles barkley had me in a coma laughing tonight. i guess golden state gets the last laugh but he was still great.
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