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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 22:02:22 GMT -5
Hornets Trade: Austin Daye Nene 2012 Hornets 1st 2010 Hornets 2nd 2011 Hornets 2nd
Rockets Trade: Joe Johnson
Hornets Agree. I like JJ a lot and feel a Barbosa-JJ-Marvin trio with Brewer coming off the bench at PG/SG is much better for right now, and will help me in this season, and while I like Daye a lot, I don't need him due to Brewer, so it's a loss that I can deal with. Dealing the 1st is a risk, but ya know what, I haven't taken many risks yet, so it's about time I do.
Nice dealing.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 8, 2007 22:04:20 GMT -5
Hmm.
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Post by Lumley316 on Oct 8, 2007 22:05:08 GMT -5
Nice deal Nova
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Post by Spencer on Oct 8, 2007 22:05:40 GMT -5
I like Daye alot, but JJ is pretty sick too.
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 22:07:34 GMT -5
I could have almost predicted this happening....Nova rushes into a deal after the whole TC discussion
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 22:08:26 GMT -5
also please don't take that as me saying this is a bad deal but it isn't great
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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 22:09:13 GMT -5
I could have almost predicted this happening....Nova rushes into a deal after the whole TC discussion Oh my god, that is not why I did the damn deal. I never had any issues with dealing Daye, I've been shopping him around, you can ask plenty of GM's and they'll tell you that. You can ask duce, I had a convo with him earlier today about how I was going to try and move Daye to add another piece for now. I didn't want to move Arthur or Ibaka because I have very high hopes for them and because good young bigs are a rarity.
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Post by aigatdula on Oct 8, 2007 22:09:44 GMT -5
agreed
i get last draft's #7 pick, a future pick and a decent big guy in Nene... JJ is 29 and agreed that it'd be difficult getting good value for him, i guess this offer is somewhat good value IMO, thus i took it.... Easy dealin' Nova...
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 8, 2007 22:10:21 GMT -5
It's a good move. I just hate JJ, always have. I think he's like Nolan Smith, just not as good as ratings suggest. But it's a good move, no less.
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Post by James on Oct 8, 2007 22:10:30 GMT -5
Umm Nova, we were speaking for over an hour, 10 PM’s back and fourth on our deal. Then out of NOWHERE you pull this trade. Thanks for getting back to me. I’m fucking pissed.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 8, 2007 22:11:08 GMT -5
I could have almost predicted this happening....Nova rushes into a deal after the whole TC discussion Oh my god, that is not why I did the damn deal. I never had any issues with dealing Daye, I've been shopping him around, you can ask plenty of GM's and they'll tell you that. You can ask duce, I had a convo with him earlier today about how I was going to try and move Daye to add another piece for now. I didn't want to move Arthur or Ibaka because I have very high hopes for them and because good young bigs are a rarity. I was pretty confident we could've gotten Daye in a deal for Brand or TC, it was the big men that killed it for us. Daye is nice, but its much easier to get a wing, then it is to get a big.
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 22:11:12 GMT -5
I could have almost predicted this happening....Nova rushes into a deal after the whole TC discussion Oh my god, that is not why I did the damn deal. I never had any issues with dealing Daye, I've been shopping him around, you can ask plenty of GM's and they'll tell you that. You can ask duce, I had a convo with him earlier today about how I was going to try and move Daye to add another piece for now. I didn't want to move Arthur or Ibaka because I have very high hopes for them and because good young bigs are a rarity. I mostly wanted Daye more than Ibaka or Arthur.....maybe you should have been more specific and counter offered instead of saying you refuse to trade your youth.
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Post by aigatdula on Oct 8, 2007 22:11:14 GMT -5
Walton > JJ IMO... after having both of them for a season..
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Post by duce on Oct 8, 2007 22:11:30 GMT -5
strong move, not sure if adding a first is worth it considering the state of both teams, but you get your guy so cool. hornets should be great sooner than later at this rate.
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 22:11:55 GMT -5
agreed i get last draft's #7 pick, a future pick and a decent big guy in Nene... JJ is 29 and agreed that it'd be difficult getting good value for him, i guess this offer is somewhat good value IMO, thus i took it.... Easy dealin' Nova... well done AIG
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Post by Spencer on Oct 8, 2007 22:12:12 GMT -5
trade in
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 22:13:24 GMT -5
Walton > JJ IMO... after having both of them for a season.. I never wanted to add Walton but I had to bc of the hardcap
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Post by Spencer on Oct 8, 2007 22:13:54 GMT -5
Oh my god, that is not why I did the damn deal. I never had any issues with dealing Daye, I've been shopping him around, you can ask plenty of GM's and they'll tell you that. You can ask duce, I had a convo with him earlier today about how I was going to try and move Daye to add another piece for now. I didn't want to move Arthur or Ibaka because I have very high hopes for them and because good young bigs are a rarity. I mostly wanted Daye more than Ibaka or Arthur.....maybe you should have been more specific and counter offered instead of saying you refuse to trade your youth. I mostly wanted Ibaka or Arthur. I think I mustve miscommunicated that to you Dave. I was of the opinion that either TC or Brand shouldve brought one big and Daye, not just Daye. Sorry about that.
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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 22:14:36 GMT -5
Umm Nova, we were speaking for over an hour, 10 PM’s back and fourth on our deal. Then out of NOWHERE you pull this trade. Thanks for getting back to me. I’m fucking pissed. Sorry? I didn't know I wasn't allowed to make deals without consulting you. I was planning on pm'ng you after it was posted to let you know that I was gonna pass on the deal, but since you already saw it and freaked out, there's no point in that I guess.
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Post by James on Oct 8, 2007 22:15:05 GMT -5
I'm fuming at work right now, I hope people aren't looking at me.
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 22:15:40 GMT -5
I mostly wanted Daye more than Ibaka or Arthur.....maybe you should have been more specific and counter offered instead of saying you refuse to trade your youth. I mostly wanted Ibaka or Arthur. I think I mustve miscommunicated that to you Dave. I was of the opinion that either TC or Brand shouldve brought one big and Daye, not just Daye. Sorry about that. no miscommunication I agree with you but out of the deal I liked Daye the most but I still think Ibaka or Arthur was warranted but I would have taken Daye ++
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Post by duce on Oct 8, 2007 22:16:00 GMT -5
I could have almost predicted this happening....Nova rushes into a deal after the whole TC discussion Oh my god, that is not why I did the damn deal. I never had any issues with dealing Daye, I've been shopping him around, you can ask plenty of GM's and they'll tell you that. You can ask duce, I had a convo with him earlier today about how I was going to try and move Daye to add another piece for now. I didn't want to move Arthur or Ibaka because I have very high hopes for them and because good young bigs are a rarity. why bother nova? his comments are so ignorant and condescending, there's seriously no point anymore.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 8, 2007 22:16:22 GMT -5
Umm Nova, we were speaking for over an hour, 10 PM’s back and fourth on our deal. Then out of NOWHERE you pull this trade. Thanks for getting back to me. I’m fucking pissed. James is a mushroom cloud layin mutherfucker, mutherfucker.
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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 22:17:00 GMT -5
I'm fuming at work right now, I hope people aren't looking at me. I did not intend to piss you off or anything, I just liked this deal for my team a lot more then our deal.
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 22:17:11 GMT -5
I'm fuming at work right now, I hope people aren't looking at me. I understand your frustration when you are in trade talks with someone and they don't give you a final chance to complete a potential deal and make a trade with no response in dialogue
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