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Post by aaron2344 on Oct 8, 2007 19:59:12 GMT -5
i don't mind the age if the player is an absolute superstar. you have to imagine most top 10 players will be studs until 35.
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 8, 2007 20:03:24 GMT -5
east has opened up a ton with the bulls/raps trading away their stars pistons, knicks, bucks, sixers, magic i think are in raps should still be in there i think that leaves two wide open spots. couldn't say that for a long time. I'll be doing whatever I can to grab one of those spots... It sucks, because out West, I'd be a shoe-in for 40 wins, whereas out East, it's far from a lock. PG - Leandro Barbosa SG - Ronnie Brewer SF - Marvin Williams PF - Darrell Arthur C - Serge Ibaka I really don't think thats a shoe-in for 40 wins in any league.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 8, 2007 20:09:31 GMT -5
I'll be doing whatever I can to grab one of those spots... It sucks, because out West, I'd be a shoe-in for 40 wins, whereas out East, it's far from a lock. PG - Leandro Barbosa SG - Ronnie Brewer SF - Marvin Williams PF - Darrell Arthur C - Serge Ibaka I really don't think thats a shoe-in for 40 wins in any league. Now, trade Ibaka and Daye for TC? 40 wins easy.
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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 20:09:54 GMT -5
Look at the West...if that Kings team could win 40 games last year, then I don't see why my line-up wouldn't this year.
Now, Dallas & San Antonio are stronger, but it's still nowhere near the East IMO.
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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 20:10:58 GMT -5
PG - Leandro Barbosa SG - Ronnie Brewer SF - Marvin Williams PF - Darrell Arthur C - Serge Ibaka I really don't think thats a shoe-in for 40 wins in any league. Now, trade Ibaka and Daye for TC? 40 wins easy. As I've stated a million times, I'm not going to make deals to jeopardize my team's future solely for the purpose of making certain that I win 40 games.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 8, 2007 20:13:30 GMT -5
Now, trade Ibaka and Daye for TC? 40 wins easy. As I've stated a million times, I'm not going to make deals to jeopardize my team's future solely for the purpose of making certain that I win 40 games. TC is too old and crappy for you? Ok.
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 8, 2007 20:14:15 GMT -5
Lets say it's the deadline... You have 32 wins, with 14 games to play. You need to go 8-6 to get 40. Do you trade some of your young guys for a guy that will guarantee you 40 wins?
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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 20:17:14 GMT -5
As I've stated a million times, I'm not going to make deals to jeopardize my team's future solely for the purpose of making certain that I win 40 games. TC is too old and crappy for you? Ok. When did I say that? He's only 26, but to be quite honest, I feel as if Ibaka will be just as good as TC soon enough, and it makes no sense to deal him AND Daye for TC just to make my team better for 1 seasons.
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 20:17:54 GMT -5
TC doesn't make him a 40 win team it makes him an elite team
Barbosa, Brewer, Williams, Arthur, and TC is a nasty SL
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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 20:17:59 GMT -5
Lets say it's the deadline... You have 32 wins, with 14 games to play. You need to go 8-6 to get 40. Do you trade some of your young guys for a guy that will guarantee you 40 wins? There are no guarantees at that point unless your acquiring a star and not giving up a key player, so no, I probably wouldn't.
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 20:19:48 GMT -5
TC is too old and crappy for you? Ok. When did I say that? He's only 26, but to be quite honest, I feel as if Ibaka will be just as good as TC soon enough, and it makes no sense to deal him AND Daye for TC just to make my team better for 1 seasons. Just another food for thought in the original BBS Darell Arthur had the same ratings as he does now with A pot and he never improved at all. I'm sure Reilly can testify to that because Arthur and Hairston were my BBS babies....I thought Arthur was going to be nasty too held onto him forever and he gave me 8 seasons of disappointment
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 8, 2007 20:20:35 GMT -5
When did I say that? He's only 26, but to be quite honest, I feel as if Ibaka will be just as good as TC soon enough, and it makes no sense to deal him AND Daye for TC just to make my team better for 1 seasons. Just another food for thought in the original BBS Darell Arthur had the same ratings as he does now with A pot and he never improved at all. I'm sure Reilly can testify to that because Arthur and Hairston were my BBS babies....I thought Arthur was going to be nasty too held onto him forever and he gave me 8 seasons of disappointment He was B-/A-B- at the same age, but had been in the league awhile longer.
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 20:22:12 GMT -5
Just another food for thought in the original BBS Darell Arthur had the same ratings as he does now with A pot and he never improved at all. I'm sure Reilly can testify to that because Arthur and Hairston were my BBS babies....I thought Arthur was going to be nasty too held onto him forever and he gave me 8 seasons of disappointment He was B-/A-B- at the same age, but had been in the league awhile longer. he came into the league at 18 I believe I had him from the start and he did have B- A-/B- ratings from year 1....A pot never improved one bit
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 8, 2007 20:23:18 GMT -5
He was B-/A-B- at the same age, but had been in the league awhile longer. he came into the league at 18 I believe I had him from the start and he did have B- A-/B- ratings from year 1....A pot never improved one bit You had him in like his 3rd or 4th year. Lumley and I had him before you.
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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 20:23:20 GMT -5
It's ludicrous to use that in an argument. Just because he sucked in the old BBS, he will suck in the new BBS?
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 20:25:03 GMT -5
my point is not Darrell Arthur but just predicting players' potential
For you to say someone will be just as good or better than TC when TC is definitely a top 5 center in this league is ridiculous.
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Post by The X-Factor on Oct 8, 2007 20:27:09 GMT -5
my point is not Darrell Arthur but just predicting players' potential For you to say someone will be just as good or better than TC when TC is definitely a top 5 center in this league is ridiculous. lol
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Post by nova on Oct 8, 2007 20:28:00 GMT -5
Top 5?
Yao, Oden, Bynum, Curry, Aldridge, and Duncan are all guys I'd rather have.
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 8, 2007 20:28:29 GMT -5
my point is not Darrell Arthur but just predicting players' potential For you to say someone will be just as good or better than TC when TC is definitely a top 5 center in this league is ridiculous. Potential with top picks isn't really a guessing game in BBS, though. After TC, if Nova's team doesn't improve a lot, it'll be a joke if he says he won't mortgage his future for the elite centers being thrown at him. But for now, he can wait until TC. I think the time to show some urgency has to come if he isn't on the fast track to 40. You don't rewarding a guy for refusing to try to win as his team struggles.
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Post by The X-Factor on Oct 8, 2007 20:32:13 GMT -5
my point is not Darrell Arthur but just predicting players' potential For you to say someone will be just as good or better than TC when TC is definitely a top 5 center in this league is ridiculous. Potential with top picks isn't really a guessing game in BBS, though. After TC, if Nova's team doesn't improve a lot, it'll be a joke if he says he won't mortgage his future for the elite centers being thrown at him. But for now, he can wait until TC. I think the time to show some urgency has to come if he isn't on the fast track to 40. You don't rewarding a guy for refusing to try to win as his team struggles. Yeah but it's not rare to see a top 5-10 pick not live up to expectations... Rip Hamilton, Carlos Boozer, Gerald Wallace etc
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 20:41:06 GMT -5
Top 5? Yao, Oden, Bynum, Curry, Aldridge, and Duncan are all guys I'd rather have. I consider Aldridge more of a PF than C and even still Chandler is a better defender much larger. Curry is similar but I'd still take Chandler over him with better handles, quicker, and taller. Duncan is 33 yrs old. Who is the next guy on this list...HUGE drop off
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Post by The X-Factor on Oct 8, 2007 20:41:59 GMT -5
Robert Swift
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Post by KruPaxson on Oct 8, 2007 20:42:53 GMT -5
my point is not Darrell Arthur but just predicting players' potential For you to say someone will be just as good or better than TC when TC is definitely a top 5 center in this league is ridiculous. Potential with top picks isn't really a guessing game in BBS, though. After TC, if Nova's team doesn't improve a lot, it'll be a joke if he says he won't mortgage his future for the elite centers being thrown at him. But for now, he can wait until TC. I think the time to show some urgency has to come if he isn't on the fast track to 40. You don't rewarding a guy for refusing to try to win as his team struggles. Jamal Crawford #7 pick.....Daye #7 pick
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 8, 2007 20:42:54 GMT -5
Potential with top picks isn't really a guessing game in BBS, though. After TC, if Nova's team doesn't improve a lot, it'll be a joke if he says he won't mortgage his future for the elite centers being thrown at him. But for now, he can wait until TC. I think the time to show some urgency has to come if he isn't on the fast track to 40. You don't rewarding a guy for refusing to try to win as his team struggles. Yeah but it's not rare to see a top 5-10 pick not live up to expectations... Rip Hamilton, Carlos Boozer, Gerald Wallace etc Wallace went like tenth.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 8, 2007 20:43:16 GMT -5
Nova, I don't think you should panic and make poor moves, but for me, when a player that fits in so perfectly like TC is available, it would seem logical that you'd put together an offer for him. I just think thats why you've had some negative comments recently. It is purely speculation, but its understandable.
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