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Post by play34basketball on Apr 27, 2008 18:52:12 GMT -5
Brewers Trade SP Abe Alvarez(from DL) SP Alexander Smit(from A) SP Jared Weaver(1st pick in draft)
Cubs Trade SP Mark Prior
Sucks to give up Weaver and my other 2 prospects but Prior is one of the best in the league and hopefully he can help my team out.
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Post by stinie3 on Apr 27, 2008 19:05:13 GMT -5
wow
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Post by Dan on Apr 27, 2008 19:25:35 GMT -5
damn
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Post by PB on Apr 27, 2008 19:27:40 GMT -5
and boom goes the dynamite...
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Post by play34basketball on Apr 27, 2008 19:28:59 GMT -5
Damn, is it that bad for me?
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Post by Bluedevils on Apr 27, 2008 19:29:55 GMT -5
Good for both. And I should've taken your deal for Crawford
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Post by play34basketball on Apr 27, 2008 19:32:05 GMT -5
Good for both. And I should've taken your deal for Crawford Yah I wish you did but its cool. I get Prior to add to my solid young pitching staff and Lums get who i thought was the best player in the draft in Weaver
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Post by PB on Apr 27, 2008 19:42:30 GMT -5
Damn, is it that bad for me? Bad? This is GREAT for you! Now you have an elite pitcher for the next 10 years.
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Post by masej on Apr 27, 2008 19:45:44 GMT -5
Damn, is it that bad for me? Bad? This is GREAT for you! Now you have an elite pitcher for the next 10 years. ![:(](http://www.techzonez.com/forums/images/smilies/whs.gif) yeah seriously. he was 13-12 last year with a 2.67 era... absolutely filthy, and he is only 26. 12 loses with that era is insane, clearly the cubbies wereent giving him any help offensively. But i like it for the cubs too, solid youth coming his way.
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Post by Dan on Apr 27, 2008 19:46:50 GMT -5
Weaver is sick but they get an already proven stud in Prior at 26. Nice deal for both. I guess the cubs are taking a new direction.
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Post by Nanz on Apr 27, 2008 19:53:38 GMT -5
Weaver looks good but nowhere near Prior. Great deal for the brew crew.
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Post by Lumley316 on Apr 28, 2008 2:40:37 GMT -5
Well im rebuidling and with Verlander and Weaver for years to come is plain sick. Prior contract was coming up and I was going to win anytime soon so he would have cost a pretty penny.
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Post by ngilman on Apr 28, 2008 15:00:09 GMT -5
I would never have traded Prior within the division...
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Post by steve on Apr 28, 2008 15:04:08 GMT -5
I would never have traded Prior within the division...
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Post by aaronjh on Apr 28, 2008 15:56:37 GMT -5
OK experts, instead of trading for good value, you'd downgrade just to trade a player outside of your division?
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Post by steve on Apr 28, 2008 16:02:02 GMT -5
OK experts, instead of trading for good value, you'd downgrade just to trade a player outside of your division? He could have gotten good value anywhere in the majors. And we're not trying to be experts, we're just saying what we think of the deal. If both sides are happy with it, then it's fine.
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Post by aaronjh on Apr 28, 2008 16:04:23 GMT -5
Well, you can apply the logic you used to anything, that's the problem. You'd never trade a star talent within your division. That's a self-defeating strategy.
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Post by stinie3 on Apr 28, 2008 16:10:32 GMT -5
OK experts, instead of trading for good value, you'd downgrade just to trade a player outside of your division? He could have gotten good value anywhere in the majors. And we're not trying to be experts, we're just saying what we think of the deal. If both sides are happy with it, then it's fine. Agree 100% with Aaron. When I trade a player, I'm looking for the best deal for MY team. If that comes from someone in my division, so be it. I want the best team I can have. If someone in my division wants to help me accomplish that, I'm all for it. I have no problem dealing within the division. I don't have control over there teams in any other move, my team will only be as good as I can make it. I don't pass on an offer simply because they're in my division.
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Post by PB on Apr 28, 2008 16:34:09 GMT -5
I do agree that you should go for the best deal possible, however I believe the Cubs could have gotten more, if not equal value, outside the NL Central. Prior is one of the best pitchers in the game and surly teams like the Yankees, Indians, and many others would have emptied their minor league systems to get him. By not moving Prior out of the division, you are giving your division rivals an ace for the next 10 years and making it much harder for your team to compete in the long run.
The Cubs got decent return. Jered Weaver will be good, but Alvarez and Smit are E duration starters. I'm just saying the Cubs could have gotten a similar, if not better deal, outside the NL Central. Good luck to the two of you.
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Post by Dan on Apr 28, 2008 16:38:37 GMT -5
Jared Weaver will be a stud. Prior is looking for a contract, long term. Cubs are rebuilding and add Weaver to Justin Verlander, potentially the future best 1-2 punch in the league. You want 5 star talent when giving up a top notch pitcher he gets that here.
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Post by aaronjh on Apr 28, 2008 16:40:42 GMT -5
I do agree that you should go for the best deal possible, however I believe the Cubs could have gotten more, if not equal value, outside the NL Central. Prior is one of the best pitchers in the game and surly teams like the Yankees, Indians, and many others would have emptied their minor league systems to get him. By not moving Prior out of the division, you are giving your division rivals an ace for the next 10 years and making it much harder for your team to compete in the long run. The Cubs got decent return. Jered Weaver will be good, but Alvarez and Smit are E duration starters. I'm just saying the Cubs could have gotten a similar, if not better deal, outside the NL Central. Good luck to the two of you. I don't disagree that good value was out there for Lums. It's possible he could've gotten two big prospects as opposed to the top pick and a decent spect in Smit. I just don't see the value in making your talents off limits to same-division teams. Shoot, Lumley dealt the first pick in this year's draft to get Prior. Nobody else could offer that,
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Post by PB on Apr 28, 2008 16:43:43 GMT -5
Yup I agree with what you are saying. I am just curious if he could have gotten Lopez or McBride + cash from the Yanks.
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Post by aaronjh on Apr 28, 2008 16:49:27 GMT -5
Yup I agree with what you are saying. I am just curious if he could have gotten Lopez or McBride + cash from the Yanks. Yeah, well, you got Hagerty instead of Mowbray, sucka.
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Post by PB on Apr 28, 2008 16:54:02 GMT -5
Please I don't need a guy with minimal loyalty, no leadership skills, and suffering clutch performance. Hagerty would pitch to the death for my club.
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Post by aaronjh on Apr 28, 2008 17:03:56 GMT -5
Please I don't need a guy with minimal loyalty, no leadership skills, and suffering clutch performance. Hagerty would pitch to the death for my club. And he'd pitch like shit!
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