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Post by The X-Factor on Mar 16, 2007 21:53:40 GMT -5
do it.
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Post by thejuice on Mar 17, 2007 0:18:08 GMT -5
How about...........................NO!
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Post by The X-Factor on Mar 17, 2007 0:25:41 GMT -5
lazy fuck.
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Post by thejuice on Mar 17, 2007 2:11:48 GMT -5
Don't get me started boy.
As of the moment there are SIX PG/Combo Guards that have potentials grades which grade out better than Harris! Harris broke out his junior year at Wisconsin and has yet to do so in the NBA. He is right now a 10 PPG scorer who gets most of his buckets driving to the basket, has a sub par three point stroke, and a less than ideal handle to be a starting PG. At this point he is nowhere near being ready to be put in the draft due to the strength of the position. Realistically if he were put into this draft he would be a very late first round pick. At the same time if people keep asking for literally every underclassman we will run out of draft classes pretty quickly.
I suggest that a thread should be started for suggestions only because people demanding/asking for this player or that player to be given potential grades should be at the discretion of people in charge of the draft classes.
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Post by The X-Factor on Mar 17, 2007 2:15:55 GMT -5
um... what? lol
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Post by Adelaide on Mar 17, 2007 2:21:38 GMT -5
Don't get me started boy. As of the moment there are SIX PG/Combo Guards that have potentials grades which grade out better than Harris! Harris broke out his junior year at Wisconsin and has yet to do so in the NBA. He is right now a 10 PPG scorer who gets most of his buckets driving to the basket, has a sub par three point stroke, and a less than ideal handle to be a starting PG. At this point he is nowhere near being ready to be put in the draft due to the strength of the position. Realistically if he were put into this draft he would be a very late first round pick. At the same time if people keep asking for literally every underclassman we will run out of draft classes pretty quickly. I suggest that a thread should be started for suggestions only because people demanding/asking for this player or that player to be given potential grades should be at the discretion of people in charge of the draft classes. You know you would of saved yourself alot of time if you just translated that into a couple letters and posted a picture but whatever floats your boat.
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Post by thejuice on Mar 17, 2007 2:50:19 GMT -5
I am not going to rate Harris because it makes no sense whatsoever to have him even considered in the 2003 draft file. Based upon the potential ratings of the other PG/Combo Guards being considered Devin Harris is going to start out pretty sorry looking. As of this moment Ben Gordon, T.J. Ford, Luke Ridnour, Mo Williams, Kirk Hinrich, Leandrinho Barbosa will be hands down better than Harris to start out AND THESE ARE JUST THE PG/COMBO GUARDS ALONE!
Realistically if he were created now he would be rated right around the area with Steve Blake and Willie Green. Obviously he would have higher potential but it makes too much sense for us to wait a season or two before considering putting him into a draft file.
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Post by thejuice on Mar 17, 2007 2:58:42 GMT -5
If I were to grade him now he would probably look something like;
C+/B- C C C+ D B/A
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Post by GP on Mar 17, 2007 3:00:59 GMT -5
dont take their shit garrett...or give em explanations...just tell em to go fuck themselves...thats it.
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Post by The X-Factor on Mar 17, 2007 3:08:09 GMT -5
dont take their shit garrett...or give em explanations...just tell em to go fuck themselves...thats it. His point is absolutely retarded. He's not going to rate him because he's not in the 2003 Draft File? Helluva an excuse.
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Post by The X-Factor on Mar 17, 2007 3:10:58 GMT -5
I am not going to rate Harris because it makes no sense whatsoever to have him even considered in the 2003 draft file. Based upon the potential ratings of the other PG/Combo Guards being considered Devin Harris is going to start out pretty sorry looking. As of this moment Ben Gordon, T.J. Ford, Luke Ridnour, Mo Williams, Kirk Hinrich, Leandrinho Barbosa will be hands down better than Harris to start out AND THESE ARE JUST THE PG/COMBO GUARDS ALONE! Realistically if he were created now he would be rated right around the area with Steve Blake and Willie Green. Obviously he would have higher potential but it makes too much sense for us to wait a season or two before considering putting him into a draft file. Spence put out Dwayne Wade in the 2001 draft, yet Wade wasn't even eligible to play that year, and Wade came out with #1 ratings... so tell me how your point makes any sense?
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Post by ducky on Mar 17, 2007 9:36:38 GMT -5
wow... Just do his ratings already damnit!
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Post by Lumley316 on Mar 17, 2007 9:47:48 GMT -5
Garrett is saying he isnt going to and shouldnt have to list every single player who can qualify for the certain drafts.
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Post by gmgreggor on Mar 17, 2007 10:35:45 GMT -5
Cant judge Harris on stats alone. From what I've heard on him he's considered the best one on one PG defender in the league. And he really doesnt play a true point,him and Terry both play hybrid PG/SG positions. Terry takes more shots though and throw in Dirk and Stackhouse's and Howards shots and there's not many left.
I think if Harris was on the Bulls like Gordon or some of these other teams his stats would be considerably better. I think other than Parker there's not a better or quicker G in the leauge driving to the basket. I dont care one way or another since I dont have a pick whether he comes out but he's being sold short on talent here.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 17, 2007 11:18:47 GMT -5
Everytime I come to this section and I see random guys post player names it really makes this system unattractive to me. I keep planning to do more prospects myself, but honestly when people start demanding certain players it makes me not wanna do it anymore. I really like this system alot but when guys start throwing names up there because they have picks in certain drafts, its really just lame.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 17, 2007 11:19:16 GMT -5
Also, I dont like Devin Harris game so i doubt hes gonna be that good. Ha.
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Post by The X-Factor on Mar 17, 2007 12:03:50 GMT -5
um... just because I post players names doesn't mean I neccesarily want them in this draft? I don't get it... you do it all the time... post a player in let's say 2002... but then make him come out in 2003. It's simple... post his ratings. If he's not coming out say "Devin Harris has decided to stay another year in college." Simple.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 17, 2007 12:05:40 GMT -5
Devin Harris is extremely quick, and can drive to the basket on just about anyone. Hes also a pretty good defender. Unfortunately he has virtually no outside game to speak of.
Potential Rookie Ratings....
C+ C C+ B- C A
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Post by duce on Mar 17, 2007 14:49:10 GMT -5
Honestly. I understood every single word Garrett said and I don't see the fucken problem??? lol. He was right on in everything he said and you guys start some shit for no reason. I'd say his mid-range jumper is a lil under rated though.
Harris wouldn't have been ready for the NBA at this point, it's all valid. He wasn't even ready when he came out, and he would go a lot later in this draft if he declared.
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Post by Lumley316 on Mar 17, 2007 14:58:55 GMT -5
Yea and of course there is going to be alot of players not scouting in here, that woudl be way to much work to do every single player.
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Post by The X-Factor on Mar 17, 2007 15:43:49 GMT -5
Honestly. I understood every single word Garrett said and I don't see the fucken problem??? lol. He was right on in everything he said and you guys start some shit for no reason. I'd say his mid-range jumper is a lil under rated though. Harris wouldn't have been ready for the NBA at this point, it's all valid. He wasn't even ready when he came out, and he would go a lot later in this draft if he declared. so what's your excuse for Dwayne Wade?
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Post by Adelaide on Mar 17, 2007 16:44:13 GMT -5
Greg Oden....do it
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Post by manasrai on Mar 17, 2007 17:03:02 GMT -5
lol
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Post by duce on Mar 17, 2007 17:12:36 GMT -5
Honestly. I understood every single word Garrett said and I don't see the fucken problem??? lol. He was right on in everything he said and you guys start some shit for no reason. I'd say his mid-range jumper is a lil under rated though. Harris wouldn't have been ready for the NBA at this point, it's all valid. He wasn't even ready when he came out, and he would go a lot later in this draft if he declared. so what's your excuse for Dwayne Wade? fuck wade. i feel he was made to be an exception because the stars were to be seperated and everyone was given fair warning. the people mad at it are the people who have a lot of picks in years 03-05. but all in all, fuck wade.
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Post by bossplaya on Mar 17, 2007 19:25:01 GMT -5
lol
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