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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 14, 2007 3:10:14 GMT -5
DJ the GM of the Toranto Raptors has won back to back titles in BBS. DJ likes to think of how great a GM he is but if we look closer into the numbers he is nothing more than a coward who has cheated winning to lose and by losing to win. The fair and accurate depiction of the past you are about to see may startle some of you but indeed you must be proactive while reading this article to really seek the truth. If you click roster links while reading this article you will see DJ for the snake rat bastard he truly is and that his claims against GM Krupimpski are completely false and inaccurately portrayed. In 1999 Lets take a look at the Raptors team... sdogbbs.com/99rosters/roster15.htmHmm, looks like you didn't bother to use your 7 mil in cap would that be because you didn't want to add talent? Mind you that you already have T-Mac a first round draft choice and the #3 selection AK and you win a measly 23 games. Lets look at the Bulls sdogbbs.com/99rosters/roster10.htmI did my best to add some guys around with first year free agents Dino Radja(B-,C-,D,C,B) who by far was my 2nd best player. I won 34 games. Tell me how was my team better than yours? Really impossible because ratings wise I was by far the worse team. 99 Result: DJ TANKS --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lets look at the Raptors. sdogbbs.com/00rosters/roster15.htmIn 2000 lets take a look at your team after you managed to finish top 5 lotto again. Holy shit you have 10 mil in cap again why because you didn't put in free agent offers. Oh yea remember when you played Michael Dickerson over Michael Redd for a few sims but Spence made you change that as you were caught trying to tank? So thats 3 top 5 lotto talents on your team but so smart of you not to add a big man to your roster because with a big man you might have actually won instead you managed to only win 22 games again. Lets take a look at the Bulls sdogbbs.com/00rosters/roster10.htmI added 3 first round picks that all played the same position. I was starting the last overall pick in the 99 draft Trajan Langdon at PG getting max production out of him. I made some trades and found gems in Keith Closs, Ervin Johnson, Bobby Sura. I was really crafty with my DC's to try and win and I managed to win 43 games which was 21 more than you. 2000 Result: DJ TANKS ------------------------------------------------------- 2001 Rolls around... Lets look at the Raptors... sdogbbs.com/01rosters/roster15.htmNow at this time McGrady is a stud full blown, no excuses! You have AK who is seasoned as well. Redd and now #2 overall pick Gilbert Arenas. You win 31 games THIRTY ONE! Maybe its because for the second straight season you failed to add a big man. Giving significant minutes in an important position to guys that belonged in free agency. Again you Tanked to land #7 overall in the lotto the following season. Lets take a look at my team.. sdogbbs.com/01rosters/roster10.htm56 wins that season and I made some deals to acquire some talent and used my cap space to get the rest without breaking the bank for the future. 2001 Results: DJ TANKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------- General Manager DJ Previous Records 1998 - 23-59 1999 - 23-59 2000 - 22-60 2001 - 31-51 2002 - 56-26 2003 - 55-27 2004 - 65-17 The Raptors 4 year win average from 98-01 is the worst average out of any team in BBS history by a landslide. General Manager Dave Previous Records 1998 - 19-63 1999 - 34-48 2000 - 43-39 2001 - 56-26 2002 - 58-24 2003 - 48-34 2004 - 59-23 You can see a steady improvement, barring an injury plagued season in 2003, in a franchise that hasn't hit it's ceiling yet and will only continue to get better. When DJ needed to dump his underachieving draft picks where did he turn? Lumley. DJ acquired Caron Butler from Lumley as well as Emeka Okafor. You decide is DJ's path to 2 championships a righteous one? Or is he just a cheating thieving canadian rat bastard that should jump in the rink before they freeze it and eventually be the dead victim of icing by the New York Rangers. DJ Housmenzaahh. DJ Hooshmensa. DJ Who's your mama. Championship! Yea he's exactly that guy.
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Post by Lumley316 on Jun 14, 2007 4:12:29 GMT -5
Wow you so overworked about this you actually mispelled a word. Where is Toranto lol.
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Post by Dan on Jun 14, 2007 8:23:16 GMT -5
hahaha good job dave.
you haven proven that dj tanked to where he is now. im proud of you. good story
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Post by aigatdula on Jun 14, 2007 8:34:00 GMT -5
lol
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Post by The X-Factor on Jun 14, 2007 8:41:40 GMT -5
dj shulda been fired
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jun 14, 2007 10:58:50 GMT -5
this is the reason people are going to get fired
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Post by GP on Jun 14, 2007 11:19:40 GMT -5
I think this article proves once again that Dave is hating again on another GM...DJ chose an easy, maybe cheating way to win, but at least hes smart enough to do that and win 2 rings...maybe not the best way to do it but he did it...
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 14, 2007 11:24:51 GMT -5
I think this article proves once again that Dave is hating again on another GM...DJ chose an easy, maybe cheating way to win, but at least hes smart enough to do that and win 2 rings...maybe not the best way to do it but he did it... This proves once again that Dave....Hey Galo, shut the fuck up get off your high horse once and a while and second I hope you truly read this article and you would see that its a total cop out way to win and makes a mockery of the competition we strive for in this league. If you click all the link of at least DJ's teams you see how blatant his tanking was and how much a pussy DJ is.
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Post by GP on Jun 14, 2007 11:28:18 GMT -5
I think this article proves once again that Dave is hating again on another GM...DJ chose an easy, maybe cheating way to win, but at least hes smart enough to do that and win 2 rings...maybe not the best way to do it but he did it... This proves once again that Dave....Hey Galo, shut the fuck up get off your high horse once and a while and second I hope you truly read this article and you would see that its a total cop out way to win and makes a mockery of the competition we strive for in this league. If you click all the link of at least DJ's teams you see how blatant his tanking was and how much a pussy DJ is. high horse? my opinion is non-biased...I read the article and i agree he went around building his team unconventionally and basically cheated the system...Ive been here since the beginning and I've seen his teams so I dont need to click the links... but the point is he's built a winner and won the championship twice because of it...you cant argue against that even if he did cheat to do it.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 14, 2007 11:32:18 GMT -5
This proves once again that Dave....Hey Galo, shut the fuck up get off your high horse once and a while and second I hope you truly read this article and you would see that its a total cop out way to win and makes a mockery of the competition we strive for in this league. If you click all the link of at least DJ's teams you see how blatant his tanking was and how much a pussy DJ is. high horse? my opinion is non-biased...I read the article and i agree he went around building his team unconventionally and basically cheated the system...Ive been here since the beginning and I've seen his teams so I dont need to click the links... but the point is he's built a winner and won the championship twice because of it...you cant argue against that even if he did cheat to do it. So you don't need to click links who was on his team in 1999 how many big men did he have? in 2000 who were his big men again? What were the numbers on his starting center? Galo you will never have a another winning team in this league and if you do its only because you'll over pay someone like Derrick Rose and at best you'll be mediocre.
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Post by aaronjh on Jun 14, 2007 11:36:31 GMT -5
great article, dave.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 14, 2007 11:38:07 GMT -5
Thanks Aaron hows school going?
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Post by GP on Jun 14, 2007 11:41:28 GMT -5
high horse? my opinion is non-biased...I read the article and i agree he went around building his team unconventionally and basically cheated the system...Ive been here since the beginning and I've seen his teams so I dont need to click the links... but the point is he's built a winner and won the championship twice because of it...you cant argue against that even if he did cheat to do it. So you don't need to click links who was on his team in 1999 how many big men did he have? in 2000 who were his big men again? What were the numbers on his starting center? Galo you will never have a another winning team in this league and if you do its only because you'll over pay someone like Derrick Rose and at best you'll be mediocre. its ok Dave. let me know when you stop being bitter. because thats all you know how to do at this point in the game. take little shots at everyone who you dont like or dont like how they do things. and as far as fielding a winning team, i dont have to prove myself to you. ive done that already in the past, even if you call my championships flukes and all the teams i made in the past bad. Ill admit I may not be the best GM always but I'm active, I know how to build teams and I try to be part of this league because its fun. but if you wanna keep being a dick, thats fine. just shows how classy you really are.
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Post by Bender on Jun 14, 2007 11:53:46 GMT -5
i'm convinced can we move my team out of the fuckin g central to at least gimme some sort of shot i will forever be 4th best in the dividion
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Post by Spencer on Jun 14, 2007 11:56:01 GMT -5
I love the central.
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Post by bossplaya on Jun 14, 2007 12:09:14 GMT -5
lol
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 14, 2007 12:15:37 GMT -5
You are active Galo but you got cocky as shit when you won your championships and became too cool for the league like writing PTI articles. You won, twice, congrats. You did a great job assembling your team but fucked yourself for the future which is the price you paid for 2 rings. If you think I take shots at everyone fine, if you think I'm an asshole fine, but my track record as a GM is proven and my activity supersedes many. I'll tell you whats up whether its good or bad. As much as I've knocked people down I've tried to pick them up. I tried to help D2A with his DC when he was struggling, I've offered non biased trade advice to others when asked, hell I even tried to help charity case Jeremy. I write a ton of articles one because I love sports journalism and second because I'm deeply in the hole for RC's. I usually get a rise out of the people I write about. D2A might have saved his franchise because I kept bitching him out. I try and promote league activity and competition all the time and go about it in different ways and sometimes people can't read inbetween the lines. So say what you will about me, my team, my actions but I take the league seriously and I want to win the right way, the hard way. So I'll keep it classy and leave on this note. kiss my ass.
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Post by duce on Jun 14, 2007 13:21:17 GMT -5
damn krup...
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Post by The X-Factor on Jun 14, 2007 14:22:56 GMT -5
i'm convinced can we move my team out of the fuckin g central to at least gimme some sort of shot i will forever be 4th best in the dividion your not even 4th best that's what blows.
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Post by Bender on Jun 14, 2007 14:29:32 GMT -5
who finished wit the better ecord dip shit
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Post by The X-Factor on Jun 14, 2007 14:32:08 GMT -5
um... we had the same record... and I won the season match-up against you hence why I'm above you in the standings dipshit.
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Post by djmyte on Jun 14, 2007 14:41:15 GMT -5
You really need to find something better to do with your time.
Regarding FA's - There wasnt anyone worth spending $$ on the first few offseasons after the restart.
I never broke any "rules". My best players were always options and they were always starters. I decided to build through the draft, which btw, teams in the NBA do as well. That is what it is there for. Some teams drafted good veteran talents, others drafted very young and therefore, were going to be bad for awhile. Tmac didnt become a legit talent until he has 21, same with AK. That's 3 years after being drafted for both.
There is more than one method of building a team. It may have been possible for my teams to win an extra 5 games or so during those years, but they were so poor id rather lose those 5 games games and increase my odds of grabbing a higher draft pick. That still doesnt negate the fact that my teams were sub 30-35 win teams at best. This isnt cheating, although you'd like to claim it is in an attempt to discredit me in order to make yourself feel better about your lack of achievement. I dont run this sim league and i didnt break any of the rules... so how could i have cheated? I got creative and maybe that is what bothers you. I thought of something you didnt and now ive won while you havent and that is just unacceptable because im one of the people that isnt scared to argue against your point of view and i dont tell you what swell guy you are.
Again, all this comes down to is the fact that you are angry because your team hasn't won anything. Obviously you dont take failure all that well and seemingly, the only way you know how to deal with it is to lash out at people. Not exactly a constructive and healthy way of going about things and also very juvenile but hey, its a personal choice, so again, best of luck with that.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 14, 2007 15:40:16 GMT -5
I never broke any "rules". My best players were always options and they were always starters. Not true as you started Michael Dickerson over Redd until Spence stopped you. You also tried to do your best to limit Mcgrady's touches whether it be running an inside focus when you had only 2 big men on your roster or when you ran an outside focus when your 2 top options were inside players. It may have been possible for my teams to win an extra 5 games or so during those years, but they were so poor id rather lose those 5 games games and increase my odds of grabbing a higher draft pick. That still doesnt negate the fact that my teams were sub 30-35 win teams at best. This isnt cheating, although you'd like to claim it is in an attempt to discredit me in order to make yourself feel better about your lack of achievement. 10 wins would have been a drastic difference in picks in those times. You would have went from top 5 to top 15. I dont run this sim league and i didnt break any of the rules... so how could i have cheated? I got creative and maybe that is what bothers you. I thought of something you didnt and now ive won while you havent and that is just unacceptable because im one of the people that isnt scared to argue against your point of view and i dont tell you what swell guy you are. Again, all this comes down to is the fact that you are angry because your team hasn't won anything. Obviously you dont take failure all that well and seemingly, the only way you know how to deal with it is to lash out at people. Not exactly a constructive and healthy way of going about things and also very juvenile but hey, its a personal choice, so again, best of luck with that. You did your best to lose for 4 straight seasons it may not be cheating but you did your best to lose. Sure you were creative with it and believe me I could have done the same thing but I feel that is just too easy. What fun is it to lose and acquire top tier talent by being one of the worst 5 teams four years straight? I've won a whole lot and that is something I am proud of. I haven't won a championship. Am I angry about that? No, upset sure. I've been on you about this topic long before you started winning. It was almost impossible for you not to win. You've done a great job of reassembling talent and I've given you credit for that but how the original talent got there is from losing dishonorably. I am not afraid to speak my mind about things going on in the league, as much as sometimes I feel I am speaking amongst deaf ears, and I do this because I enjoy spending my time playing in the league. This is all level headed debate far from being juvenile or unhealthy banter which you try to portray it to be. Maybe you have to turn to that as your argument to shadow the fact of all the micromanagement moves you had made or didn't make in the latter seasons to be the worst team possible. If you can stomach winning like that I guess good for you, however I can't. I am a true competitor and when I do win, it all, it will feel damn good because it is well deserved.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 14, 2007 15:40:58 GMT -5
Wow you so overworked about this you actually mispelled a word. Where is Toranto lol. i don't give canada any respect
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Post by djmyte on Jun 14, 2007 16:28:08 GMT -5
You claim im the one who thinks im great, yet i never speak of myself in such a way, nor do i constantly focus topics/articles on myself or my team.
This whole topic is a self service to ... yourself... about how you wouldnt lower yourself to some dishonorable level or how you take the supposed hard way and therefore are more deserving of winning. Most likely in an attempt to feel better about your lack of achievement to date. You arent unique and you havent done anything different or more difficult than anyone before you. You tanked for Brand. Which also led to you eventually drafting Ginobili. You can claim you did everything in your power to win as much as possible but its just a claim. One which you would obviously make in order to create the most positive view of yourself.
The the lottery was created for a reason. So that the team with the worst record isnt guaranteed to get the best pick. My team was terrible after the restart and the only way from me to build contender was through the draft, considering the FA classes were extremely weak and i didnt have any assets to trade, other than McGrady and my own picks. Building through the draft was the most logical way to go.
You can trade lots, try to rip people off(which btw, you have become fairly good at over the years... examples...marvin williams, dirk nowitzki) sign FA's and/or draft. These are all options through which a GM can build a team. It has nothing to do with honor. Purposely altering the sim outcome(which can only be done by the simmer) and making trades that are intended to benefit one side only(friendly deals in which two people, who usually know each other well, agree to a trade because it helps on GM out immensely) are the only acts that can described as dishonorable.
But you will continue to promote your side of the truth in order to present yourself in the best possible light while trying to discredit anything I have done, which apparently makes you feel better in some way. But reality is this... we are where we are. Deal with it.
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