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Post by KruPaxson on Dec 23, 2006 21:33:13 GMT -5
Across the country debates were formed over the events that took place between the New York Knicks and the Denver Nuggets. As everyone discussed the brawl the topic of the possible consequences of what could have happened was not the issue at hand for most but rather who came out to be the bigger or even the biggest bitch or who left as tough guy. The regionally televised game was shown on every News and Sports networks across the country to be viewed by millions of children and young adults. Charles Barkley was quoted last year saying he was not a role model but whether he likes it or not, he is. Every NBA player is a role model to a child somewhere whether it be from the player’s hometown, the franchise’s local community, or on a national scale. A child’s mind is easily influenced by people they look up to. This could easily be identifiable by statistics that show a child is 75% more likely to become an alcoholic or smoker if their mother or father is one. Don’t you remember the days in your driveway shooting fade aways to win the game like 23?
Two years ago, Ron Artest followed by teammate Stephen Jackson rushed into the stands throwing punches at fans which started a large brawl. This was not the first or last time Artest or Jackson have been associated with trouble. Artest was suspended before this for throwing a television set in the tunnel at MSG. Jackson is also no stranger to the wrong side of the law as he has been found shooting a gun at a strip club amongst other legal woes.
The players involved in the Knicks and Nuggets brawl were no strangers to the other side of the law as well. Carmelo Anthony has had troubles with the law on more than one account. Melo who is the NBA’s leading scorer and a house hold name just recently opened The Carmelo Anthony Youth Center days before the brawl. I wonder if the youth center shows his games? Robinson has some legal issues back in his college days at Washington while JR Smith has been associated with some bad crowds. The NBA is trying to clean up it’s image by first changing the pre-game dress code to a more professional business attire and by allowing the referees to toss out the technical foul more freely for player talk back to referees’ call making. Player suspensions have been looked as being more harsh than in the past such as Artest’s and Jackson’s but will the NBA ever clean up it’s image entirely if there is still dirt in the league.
Last Spring Washington Wizards guard Gilbert Arenas and forward Awvee Storey had been arrested on charges of disobeying police.
Storey was blocking traffic in the middle of a busy street when an officer told him to get back to the sidewalk that Saturday night, according to police reports. Storey didn’t get out of the street, and the officer arrested him and charged him with failure to obey a command. Although not a major crime it showed Awvee’s lack of respect for authority.
This past Thursday, Awvee is lucky not to be in jail on convicted murder charges as he threw a lethal punch to teammate Martynas Andriuskevicius. The altercation took place during practice Thursday. The 7-2, 240-pound Andriuskevicius, 20, spent Thursday night in intensive care in Bismarck, N.D.
''He has a skull fracture, severe concussion and a two-centimeter hematoma on the left side of his brain,'' Andriuskevicius' agent Herb Rudoy said. ''They've been monitoring him because they're concerned about seizures.
''From what I'm told, when he got hit unexpectedly, he went out cold instantly and fell right back on his head.''
The 6-6, 225-pound Storey has been suspended indefinitely while the NBA and NBDL investigate.
This unfortunate event was luckily not the same results in either of the previous two brawls but definitely could have. The NBA has to have stronger provisions to prevent this violent behavior from happening again and if this means that banning players from the game well then please do so. Thugs should not have the privilege of being professional basketball players in the NBA. NBA players need to realize they are role models and they should be positive ones. Next time while kids are playing basketball in their driveway they might not be practicing their jump shot but instead their cheap shot.
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Post by djmyte on Dec 23, 2006 23:09:43 GMT -5
NBA needs to clean up the officiating... way too many fouls are being called...
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Post by manasrai on Dec 23, 2006 23:55:34 GMT -5
Krup and I don't seem to see eye to eye on most things but I'd definately agree with everything in the above article. Good read.
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Post by Dan on Dec 24, 2006 0:02:42 GMT -5
yeah good read. these guys are role models and they act like morons. but i do agree with dj, they call to many stupid fouls.
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Post by duce on Dec 24, 2006 2:59:10 GMT -5
at the same time, i hardly see how they're responsible for the uprise or downfall of the country. if everyone looks down on their behavior then why the hell do they act like em? makes no sense, better parenting is the real answer.
and while i'm at it... fuck the police.
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Post by KruPaxson on Dec 24, 2006 3:52:10 GMT -5
if you read and comprehended the article duce you would see that a child's mind is easily influenced. Such as a parent smoking....a kid will be more likely to smoke. Remember the whole Bevis and Butthead ordeal? I'm sure Bender will love to comment on that. Children that play violent video games with guns think its fun and games and don't realize the harm of guns in a sense of reality. A list can go on....
Basically a player like Dwayne Wade sets a great example for youth. Also his marketing and commercials emphasize this such as the Lincoln Navigator commercial where he gives the truck to the coach of the little kids to drive them around and humble wade drives off on a bike instead. Or the commercial where he keep getting fouled hard and hitting the ground but he keeps on getting up to take his ft make them and be succesful.
Or Carmelo Anthony. Walks, talks, and acts like a punk. He is the leading scorer in the NBA so if he can be succesful and be a punk why can't any kid out there do the same? If he was the 12th man on the memphis grizz and was a punk it wouldn't have the same significance but it would still be just as bad cough mardy collins cough. A player in a youth rec league is going to mimic that foul in a simular situation..why because he isn't a bitch and isn't going to get disrepected and punk'd like that because thats what he saw on the 6pm sports center.
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Post by duce on Jan 3, 2007 16:16:50 GMT -5
if you read and comprehended the article duce you would see that a child's mind is easily influenced. Such as a parent smoking....a kid will be more likely to smoke. Remember the whole Bevis and Butthead ordeal? I'm sure Bender will love to comment on that. Children that play violent video games with guns think its fun and games and don't realize the harm of guns in a sense of reality. A list can go on.... Basically a player like Dwayne Wade sets a great example for youth. Also his marketing and commercials emphasize this such as the Lincoln Navigator commercial where he gives the truck to the coach of the little kids to drive them around and humble wade drives off on a bike instead. Or the commercial where he keep getting fouled hard and hitting the ground but he keeps on getting up to take his ft make them and be succesful. Or Carmelo Anthony. Walks, talks, and acts like a punk. He is the leading scorer in the NBA so if he can be succesful and be a punk why can't any kid out there do the same? If he was the 12th man on the memphis grizz and was a punk it wouldn't have the same significance but it would still be just as bad cough mardy collins cough. A player in a youth rec league is going to mimic that foul in a simular situation..why because he isn't a bitch and isn't going to get disrepected and punk'd like that because thats what he saw on the 6pm sports center. really didn't see you replied until now... honestly i'm not in disagreement with the fact that these things happen. what i will say is that when you post an article and leave it open for discussion... and somebody bothers to read it and happens to disagree with it, and you go off and tell that person he must not have read it(mainly because you posted it so obviously you're a god and you must be right), then it kind of defeats the purpose of posting it. i mean i'm not going to sit here and be anyone's yes-man. face it, anyone who disagrees with that article, they automtaically in your mind have not comprehended it. that's garbage buddy. i happen to think that these well paid athletes didn't exactly sign up to be roll models and simply are either trying to get paid, and/or have a love for basketball. whether they are examples or not is pretty irrelivant to many of them, and whether they want to take on those responsibilities or not is THEIR CHOICE BECAUSE IT'S A FREE COUNTRY. futhermore, to specifically fault nba players is 100% racist in every way. hockey players fight and get bloody all the freakin time. and i suppose when a jaret wright or a roger clemens fires a 95 mile per hour pitch at a guy then THAT'S OK to the average fan. to me, it's all ok. but you can either go one way or the other. i get the feeling a lot of people don't, and that IS RACIST. no way around that - period. but my whole point is that you're essentially posting an article that is hypocritical and singles out one race(undeservedly) and then when somebody disagrees... they didn't comprehend it.  |
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Post by KruPaxson on Jan 3, 2007 16:24:06 GMT -5
if you read and comprehended the article duce you would see that a child's mind is easily influenced. Such as a parent smoking....a kid will be more likely to smoke. Remember the whole Bevis and Butthead ordeal? I'm sure Bender will love to comment on that. Children that play violent video games with guns think its fun and games and don't realize the harm of guns in a sense of reality. A list can go on.... Basically a player like Dwayne Wade sets a great example for youth. Also his marketing and commercials emphasize this such as the Lincoln Navigator commercial where he gives the truck to the coach of the little kids to drive them around and humble wade drives off on a bike instead. Or the commercial where he keep getting fouled hard and hitting the ground but he keeps on getting up to take his ft make them and be succesful. Or Carmelo Anthony. Walks, talks, and acts like a punk. He is the leading scorer in the NBA so if he can be succesful and be a punk why can't any kid out there do the same? If he was the 12th man on the memphis grizz and was a punk it wouldn't have the same significance but it would still be just as bad cough mardy collins cough. A player in a youth rec league is going to mimic that foul in a simular situation..why because he isn't a bitch and isn't going to get disrepected and punk'd like that because thats what he saw on the 6pm sports center. really didn't see you replied until now... honestly i'm not in disagreement with the fact that these things happen. what i will say is that when you post an article and leave it open for discussion... and somebody bothers to read it and happens to disagree with it, and you go off and tell that person he must not have read it(mainly because you posted it so obviously you're a god and you must be right), then it kind of defeats the purpose of posting it. i mean i'm not going to sit here and be anyone's yes-man. face it, anyone who disagrees with that article, they automtaically in your mind have not comprehended it. that's garbage buddy. i happen to think that these well paid athletes didn't exactly sign up to be roll models and simply are either trying to get paid, and/or have a love for basketball. whether they are examples or not is pretty irrelivant to many of them, and whether they want to take on those responsibilities or not is THEIR CHOICE BECAUSE IT'S A FREE COUNTRY. futhermore, to specifically fault nba players is 100% racist in every way. hockey players fight and get bloody all the freakin time. and i suppose when a jaret wright or a roger clemens fires a 95 mile per hour pitch at a guy then THAT'S OK to the average fan. to me, it's all ok. but you can either go one way or the other. i get the feeling a lot of people don't, and that IS RACIST. no way around that - period. but my whole point is that you're essentially posting an article that is hypocritical and singles out one race(undeservedly) and then when somebody disagrees... they didn't comprehend it. where do you get this from? racism? where do you even get the remote idea of this? the race card has been over played since the 90's and I don't even find it acceptable anymore. I really have no idea where you find racist thoughts anywhere in this at all. P.S I think Marty McSorley is a scumbag for hitting Donald Brashear in the head. |
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Post by KruPaxson on Jan 3, 2007 16:27:24 GMT -5
also i just responded to the statement you made and the question you phrased. Just because you make a comment in response to my comment means I have to agree with you? don't be hypocritical now.
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Post by duce on Jan 3, 2007 16:34:47 GMT -5
people disagree with me all the time, i just take exception to the fact that you think i must not have read the article correctly because i disagreed with its content.
i'm not saying that there is racist intent, but it's still wrong to single out the nba imo.
and i never said you had to agree and honestly, most people here seemed to agree with the article and i'm not blasting EVERYONE. clearly, i just don't appreciate being talked down to as if my opinion is worthless. i don't see how it could be hypocritical... i had no intent of making you a robot and changing your mind. all i did was state 2 points - my opinion and my displeasure with what you said to me.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jan 3, 2007 16:53:10 GMT -5
you said why do they act like them, referring to NBA players?
I said a Child's mind is more easily influenced, which is something in my article i clearly stated and that would answer your question which you might have missed while reading or perhaps not understood. It's not a matter of talking down to you it's more talking with you as a peer. Also it's an article about the NBA not sports. In fact I'll flip the tables here a bit and I think it's racist of you to think these thoughts by bringing up hockey and baseball two sports which mostly consists of white athletes. I think this is a problem with alot of thoughts of racism, personally I don't look at this and my opions in the original article were about who these people are not what they are. I compared Dwayne Wade to Carmelo Anthony to my knowledge they are of the same ethinicity.
1. Any Baseball brawl is wrong. From Barret in Chicago to Roberto Alomar spitting
2. Hockey McSorely to a fight
3. NFL to College football...miami u brawl horrible
There was this one badmitton brawl and curling brawl too which i think are wrong to does this satisfy you.
So you never really stated your opinion much so it wasn't the fact that you disagreed with me because you phrased more of a question rather than an opinion for me to even have the chance to disagree with. Do you think what these players did was wrong? Or they aren't role models becasue they are on National/Regional Prime time TV for children to watch and emulate them. Is a teacher not a role model? They are just trying to get paid too while maybe showing them 2+2. Also as Nick Naylor told me once, If you argue correctly you can never be wrong.
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Post by The X-Factor on Jan 3, 2007 17:06:56 GMT -5
You have to play the race card when it comes to the NBA because it is predominately(sp?) African-American. The NBA is looked under a microscope all the time, while MLB and NHL have all-out bench clearing brawls almost every other week and all they get is a mention on Sportscenter, nothing more.
I agree with Duce on most everything. People don't become famous to be role-models. Those doing good 100% of the time usually go by unrecognized. Alot of the players from the NBA came from nothing and used it as a means to escape poverty and the negative things around them i.e. Ron Artest, Allen Iverson, Caron Butler, Isiah Thomas to name a few. No one becomes an NBA player to be a role-model, I'm sure most of you know the NBA forces all players to do some form of charity.
When people say why in the hell do athletes make more than doctors and such, my simple answer is this. With the right education, mindset, and willpower, ANYONE, yes anyone, can become a doctor. Not EVERYONE is cut out to be a professional basketball player. There are what 300, 400+ players in the NBA? Maybe 100 or so from overseas, so what are the odds of you becoming a professional athlete? Definently ALOT slimmer than that of becoming a doctor. My point being that it's the parents who should be the child's idols, and if that is impossible(which in alot of cases it is) kids should look to real idols, those that make a real difference in the world. Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela, Pope John Paul II, ironic that they're all dead...
That's not to say I think it is wrong to idolize a celebrity, shit I do, but people confuse celebrities as being super-human. Like they SHOULDN'T do anything wrong. They are REAL people just like all of us. I grew up idolizing Tupac Shakur and to this day still do, but that doesn't mean I'm going to live the "Thug Life." I understood the movement, and what it meant, but it didn't represent me.
You mean to tell me just because Carmelo Anthony is the leading scorer in the NBA and a superstar, he has no right to be who he is? You have no idea how he was raised or what his ideals are. He could be the nicest guy in the whole fucking world, but just because he does bad things should NOT make him a bad guy. Last I heard, he didn't rob anyone, kill anyone, domestically abuse anyone, or test positive for any type of drugs. So just because he seems to have an arrogant attitude, he's a "bad role-model?"
He's what only 23-24 years old? He has plenty of time to mature and realize that he is in a position of "power" and probably is a role-model to alot of kids, but that doesn't mean he is a bad guy or that the NBA needs to "clean" up it's image, matter of fact, I hear more about someone in the NFL getting shot up, caught doing drugs, robbing, domestic abuse, and whatever that in the NBA.
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Post by duce on Jan 3, 2007 17:08:18 GMT -5
you said why do they act like them, referring to NBA players? I said a Child's mind is more easily influenced, which is something in my article i clearly stated and that would answer your question which you might have missed while reading or perhaps not understood. It's not a matter of talking down to you it's more talking with you as a peer. i'm not offended by this whole racism thing. but the fact is that people just start this uproar of violence in sports because of a couple of nba brawls, when violent acts in professional sports is nothing new, and not only in the nba. while pro-athletes of major sports may be role models, it's completely their right to do as they wish, and as i said before, it's their choice to take on the responsibility. it is not however much of a choice when it comes to parenting. if parents can't bring a child up to be half-decent citizen then that's tough shit. there is far more violence on tv and movies and even sports, than is scene in the nba and it is nothing short of moronic to single that league out. i don't even care if it's racist, but it sure sounds racist to me. i will not even respond to the fact that you have basically... called me racist, and tried to sneak your way into making people think you didn't single me out because i disagreed with an article you posted. anyone in their right mind could see i gave an - albeit loudly expressed - opinion. all this other stuff is really not worth my time, i don't have to respond to foolish comments. i'll be glad to talk about the actual topic at hand, anything else, as i can see the level you're sinking to here, i'm just not feelin. |
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Post by KruPaxson on Jan 3, 2007 17:41:27 GMT -5
You have to play the race card when it comes to the NBA because it is predominately(sp?) African-American. The NBA is looked under a microscope all the time, while MLB and NHL have all-out bench clearing brawls almost every other week and all they get is a mention on Sportscenter, nothing more. I agree with Duce on most everything. People don't become famous to be role-models. Those doing good 100% of the time usually go by unrecognized. Alot of the players from the NBA came from nothing and used it as a means to escape poverty and the negative things around them i.e. Ron Artest, Allen Iverson, Caron Butler, Isiah Thomas to name a few. No one becomes an NBA player to be a role-model, I'm sure most of you know the NBA forces all players to do some form of charity. When people say why in the hell do athletes make more than doctors and such, my simple answer is this. With the right education, mindset, and willpower, ANYONE, yes anyone, can become a doctor. Not EVERYONE is cut out to be a professional basketball player. There are what 300, 400+ players in the NBA? Maybe 100 or so from overseas, so what are the odds of you becoming a professional athlete? Definently ALOT slimmer than that of becoming a doctor. My point being that it's the parents who should be the child's idols, and if that is impossible(which in alot of cases it is) kids should look to real idols, those that make a real difference in the world. Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela, Pope John Paul II, ironic that they're all dead... That's not to say I think it is wrong to idolize a celebrity, shit I do, but people confuse celebrities as being super-human. Like they SHOULDN'T do anything wrong. They are REAL people just like all of us. I grew up idolizing Tupac Shakur and to this day still do, but that doesn't mean I'm going to live the "Thug Life." I understood the movement, and what it meant, but it didn't represent me. You mean to tell me just because Carmelo Anthony is the leading scorer in the NBA and a superstar, he has no right to be who he is? You have no idea how he was raised or what his ideals are. He could be the nicest guy in the whole fucking world, but just because he does bad things should NOT make him a bad guy. Last I heard, he didn't rob anyone, kill anyone, domestically abuse anyone, or test positive for any type of drugs. So just because he seems to have an arrogant attitude, he's a "bad role-model?" He's what only 23-24 years old? He has plenty of time to mature and realize that he is in a position of "power" and probably is a role-model to alot of kids, but that doesn't mean he is a bad guy or that the NBA needs to "clean" up it's image, matter of fact, I hear more about someone in the NFL getting shot up, caught doing drugs, robbing, domestic abuse, and whatever that in the NBA. First for you to play the race card to the NBA bc of it's majority is of African American race is idiotic and this is the ignorance that Martin Luther King fought hard to be stopped. If you continue to seperate African Americans from White to Latinos etc. this is the problem that lies at hand. Personally I feel Black History Month is racist. Why have a one month out of 12 to say it's black history month...why is not just history all the time? The NBA is the highest profesional level of basketball and it holds standards such as every other major professional sports league. There is such a thing as integrity in the league and that David Stern is trying to uphold. The NBA is a job! Would you not be fired from your job if you were to fight with a fellow co worker or customer. This whole article stemmed from the fact of a NBA player by the name of Awvee Storey sucker punching a fellow team mate at practice and nearly killing him and he had run ins with the law before. These are not the people that should have the privledge of playing in the NBA. It's not everyone's right to play in the NBA. If you can get that through your thick skulls. It's not a white or black issue or whether you came from the streets or the suburbs. If a rich white player such as Mike Dunleavey did the same thing I would be raising the same issue but he did not and it just so happens to be that the people that keep fighting or committing these actions happen to be black players that have had trouble with the law. That's just what happens to be. It's unfortunate but that's the situation at hand no one is saying it's a black thing because it's the NBA besides you two. Also Carmelo Athony I've had the displeasure of meeting him once and I was not impressed. I also have many friends and people I've work with that had encounters with him and concour with my thoughts about him. He was also widely known at Syracuse for being disrespectful to women around the party scene and I'm sure if he would have stayed in a college atmosphere it would have been to his detriment. |
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Post by KruPaxson on Jan 3, 2007 17:53:26 GMT -5
you said why do they act like them, referring to NBA players? I said a Child's mind is more easily influenced, which is something in my article i clearly stated and that would answer your question which you might have missed while reading or perhaps not understood. It's not a matter of talking down to you it's more talking with you as a peer. i'm not offended by this whole racism thing. but the fact is that people just start this uproar of violence in sports because of a couple of nba brawls, when violent acts in professional sports is nothing new, and not only in the nba. while pro-athletes of major sports may be role models, it's completely their right to do as they wish, and as i said before, it's their choice to take on the responsibility. it is not however much of a choice when it comes to parenting. if parents can't bring a child up to be half-decent citizen then that's tough shit. there is far more violence on tv and movies and even sports, than is scene in the nba and it is nothing short of moronic to single that league out. i don't even care if it's racist, but it sure sounds racist to me. i will not even respond to the fact that you have basically... called me racist, and tried to sneak your way into making people think you didn't single me out because i disagreed with an article you posted. anyone in their right mind could see i gave an - albeit loudly expressed - opinion. all this other stuff is really not worth my time, i don't have to respond to foolish comments. i'll be glad to talk about the actual topic at hand, anything else, as i can see the level you're sinking to here, i'm just not feelin. My issue all along was with the NBA not in sports, I echo that again. NBA ratings were on a downward slope over the past years as well as ticket and merchandise. Maybe there is something to that. These players are role models whether they like it or not. They can be positive or negative ones and that is their choice. To say it's racist to call out the NBA is absurb because the last time I checked, Basketball wasn't a "Black" thing. I find it ironic that you had no problem shouting racism in your first response but when I threw the ball back into you court accusing you of the same things you proclaim, you have no response and call it foolish comments. Maybe the point being you should see your foolishness for bringing them up in the first place. If you want to say I singled you out maybe its because you were the only person to disagree. Kind of hard to argue with someone that agreed with me. I would encourage you to continue in responding because I don't feel anyone stooping down to any low levels and that excuse is just a cop out. So if you have any valid points to add to your argument you should make them because obviously this is a topic you feel strongly about so it should be worth a little bit of your time. |
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Post by duce on Jan 3, 2007 19:06:22 GMT -5
krump i understand your orginal points, and i've said everything i can think of on this topic. i wasn't saying you're a racist - i just want that to be clear. i was saying that the idea in general of the article is in a sense... obviously you disagree but that's just what i'm saying.
i will bring this up again though, i know this is "about the nba" but frankly it kind of confuses the hell out of me as to why this isn't taken seriously:
in the NHL, fighting is acceptable. yes it's a prodominantly "white sport". and i mean, i'm white, and i play basketball with all my heart, but it would take a blind man not to notice that the nba is a large population of african american players.
so... why is the NHL not being blasted? players get in fights, it seems, once a week or so? people literally make sportscenter BY fighting in that league. and i'm not stupid btw, i know they wear pads and are restricted from making full punches and such... BUT it is still fighting!
that's what i'm getting at, when i say the nba is singled out here. it just seems like people think black people want to fight out there - and nobody else - which is simply not the case....... where is the "NHL needs to clean up & get the dirt out" article...?
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Post by manasrai on Jan 3, 2007 19:13:19 GMT -5
I really don't see why racism has anything to do with the original post at all. Perhaps that stems from my belief that basketball players indeed do not have a right to misbehave. Committing an act which is widely considered "dirty" or uncalled for in any sport should be looked down upon. Thats why the above mentioned hockey incident and the basketball incidents are not that different. They may not have signed up to be role models, but I for one completely expect them to behave...at least while doing what they get paid to do, play basketball.
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Post by JDawg on Jan 3, 2007 19:15:25 GMT -5
the refs ruin the game. I can't name how many times they've lost a game for a team during this nba season.
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Post by duce on Jan 3, 2007 19:27:03 GMT -5
if somebody told you how to live your life(let's make it some random people on the internet actually), would you aknowlege it or ignore it?
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Post by duce on Jan 3, 2007 19:29:32 GMT -5
the refs ruin the game. I can't name how many times they've lost a game for a team during this nba season. i see...lol |
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Post by manasrai on Jan 3, 2007 19:30:01 GMT -5
you're not recognizing the point I'm trying to make. While on camera, playing a sport they are paid millions to play, I fully expect all of them to behave.
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Post by duce on Jan 3, 2007 19:42:18 GMT -5
no i understand it. i just think they hardly care what you or i think about their behavior. our expectations of them are pretty much meaningless. i'd like nba players to be class acts too... i'd like world peace for that matter.
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Post by Mark on Jan 3, 2007 20:18:40 GMT -5
HAHA, Jaret Wright or Roger Clemens. Jaret Wright. I love it.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jan 3, 2007 20:20:38 GMT -5
krump i understand your orginal points, and i've said everything i can think of on this topic. i wasn't saying you're a racist - i just want that to be clear. i was saying that the idea in general of the article is in a sense... obviously you disagree but that's just what i'm saying. i will bring this up again though, i know this is "about the nba" but frankly it kind of confuses the hell out of me as to why this isn't taken seriously: in the NHL, fighting is acceptable. yes it's a prodominantly "white sport". and i mean, i'm white, and i play basketball with all my heart, but it would take a blind man not to notice that the nba is a large population of african american players. so... why is the NHL not being blasted? players get in fights, it seems, once a week or so? people literally make sportscenter BY fighting in that league. and i'm not stupid btw, i know they wear pads and are restricted from making full punches and such... BUT it is still fighting! that's what i'm getting at, when i say the nba is singled out here. it just seems like people think black people want to fight out there - and nobody else - which is simply not the case....... where is the "NHL needs to clean up & get the dirt out" article...? Again, if you read the original article it would be stemming from current events. Avwee Storey almost killed Marty Andri...by fracturing his skull in practice be delivering a cheap shot to his own teammate. It's not a white/black thing and like I said before you keep making it one. it's about the person at hand here. Storey was also the one with Arenas in the offseason that wouldn't move for cops. It's a thug mentality that I feel that needs to be eliminated from the league. Not because he is black but because he is a thug. These players need to wise up and start acting like civil adults because they are getting paid alot of money to play a game at a highly competitive level. To comment on your last paragraph when you say that's what i'm getting at, when i say the nba is singled out here. it just seems like people think black people want to fight out there - and nobody else This is such a biased one sided outlook on things. There is clothing store that has a hired security guard to monitor activity in the store. One person, who happens to be black, walks into the store and is just browsing around and walks to the back of the store. The security guard gets up to relocate his position torwards the back of the store. What do you make of that scenario? |
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Post by KruPaxson on Jan 3, 2007 20:23:33 GMT -5
no i understand it. i just think they hardly care what you or i think about their behavior. our expectations of them are pretty much meaningless. i'd like nba players to be class acts too... i'd like world peace for that matter. that's where you are really wrong. Kobe lost Sprite, McDonalds, and an Adidas deals after his alleged rape case. Melo also lost a magizine deal with southwest airlines after the brawl because of their image to the public after their actions. So if these players are there just to get "paid" like you say and not being a positive role model well you are wrong because it pays to be positive role model ask Dwayne Wade and Lebron James. |
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