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Post by Adelaide on Jul 25, 2007 3:22:51 GMT -5
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Post by JDawg on Jul 25, 2007 6:39:17 GMT -5
What is this world coming to, oh man.
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Post by ducky on Jul 25, 2007 15:32:08 GMT -5
Meh. This is problem with Islam. I have many Muslim relatives, and they are nicer people than me. But some of the Muslims that truly practice Islam scare me. Basically the women are forced to marry in their religion, and there's no way to get out. If you try to leave or break your religion, you will get killed. One of my relatives was murdered in Iran for converting to Christianity.
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Post by JDawg on Jul 25, 2007 15:32:52 GMT -5
Meh. This is problem with Islam. I have many Muslim relatives, and they are nicer people than me. But some of the Muslims that truly practice Islam scare me. Basically the women are forced to marry in their religion, and there's no way to get out. If you try to leave or break your religion, you will get killed. One of my relatives was murdered in Iran for converting to Christianity. Sorry to hear that bro. Scary stuff.
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Post by ducky on Jul 25, 2007 15:35:20 GMT -5
Meh. This is problem with Islam. I have many Muslim relatives, and they are nicer people than me. But some of the Muslims that truly practice Islam scare me. Basically the women are forced to marry in their religion, and there's no way to get out. If you try to leave or break your religion, you will get killed. One of my relatives was murdered in Iran for converting to Christianity. Sorry to hear that bro. Scary stuff. Yeah, thankfully most Muslims don't read the Qur'an and don't really practice much of what it says other than praying.
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Post by nova on Jul 25, 2007 16:36:00 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that bro. Scary stuff. Yeah, thankfully most Muslims don't read the Qur'an and don't really practice much of what it says other than praying. Yeah, being a Muslim(albeit a non-religious one), I can definitely tell you that most of us are not like these lunatics that blow people up; most of us are some of the nicest people you will ever meet.
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Post by JDawg on Jul 25, 2007 17:23:15 GMT -5
Yeah, thankfully most Muslims don't read the Qur'an and don't really practice much of what it says other than praying. Yeah, being a Muslim(albeit a non-religious one), I can definitely tell you that most of us are not like these lunatics that blow people up; most of us are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. I've never had a problem with any myself. I have had more problems with Indians, especially where I work, trying to cheat the system, AKA "Coupons." Also they feel they have the right to always argue with me when they clearly know they are wrong. Sorry but I just have a prejudice against them. Also, Chinese, just in specific since the V Tech incident, plus I had a recent argument with one, over a stupid receipt lol, long story.
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Post by ducky on Jul 25, 2007 18:31:08 GMT -5
Yeah, thankfully most Muslims don't read the Qur'an and don't really practice much of what it says other than praying. Yeah, being a Muslim(albeit a non-religious one), I can definitely tell you that most of us are not like these lunatics that blow people up; most of us are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. Agreed, but my point is that the entire religion is based upon pretty brutal and grotesque stuff. I know this because I've read the Qua'rn and I've a lot about it. But like my relatives, they pray and stuff, but they don't even read the Qua'rn . But the fanatics that are totally in this shit, geez, I'm scared to death of em.
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Post by JDawg on Jul 25, 2007 18:44:45 GMT -5
Yeah, being a Muslim(albeit a non-religious one), I can definitely tell you that most of us are not like these lunatics that blow people up; most of us are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. Agreed, but my point is that the entire religion is based upon pretty brutal and grotesque stuff. I know this because I've read the Qua'rn and I've a lot about it. But like my relatives, they pray and stuff, but they don't even read the Qua'rn . But the fanatics that are totally in this shit, geez, I'm scared to death of em. I can completely understand. Their beliefs probably include more violent approaches than just praying.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 25, 2007 22:08:31 GMT -5
Yeah, being a Muslim(albeit a non-religious one), I can definitely tell you that most of us are not like these lunatics that blow people up; most of us are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. I've never had a problem with any myself. I have had more problems with Indians, especially where I work, trying to cheat the system, AKA "Coupons." Also they feel they have the right to always argue with me when they clearly know they are wrong. Sorry but I just have a prejudice against them. Also, Chinese, just in specific since the V Tech incident, plus I had a recent argument with one, over a stupid receipt lol, long story. Lots of people from India using coupons at your store?
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Post by JDawg on Jul 25, 2007 22:16:06 GMT -5
I've never had a problem with any myself. I have had more problems with Indians, especially where I work, trying to cheat the system, AKA "Coupons." Also they feel they have the right to always argue with me when they clearly know they are wrong. Sorry but I just have a prejudice against them. Also, Chinese, just in specific since the V Tech incident, plus I had a recent argument with one, over a stupid receipt lol, long story. Lots of people from India using coupons at your store? Yeah, tons and tons of coupons, non-stop. There is a sign in India that says "Come live in Edison," which is where I live and the store I work in is in Edison also. My bro goes to school with a lot of Indians. For the ones i've known, they tend to be a bit on the jerky side.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 25, 2007 22:17:14 GMT -5
Lots of people from India using coupons at your store? Yeah, tons and tons of coupons, non-stop. There is a sign in India that says "Come live in Edison," which is where I live and the store I work in is in Edison also. My bro goes to school with a lot of Indians. For the ones i've known, they tend to be a bit on the jerky side. Odd.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 25, 2007 22:20:19 GMT -5
hahahahahaha this was funny
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Post by KruPaxson on Jul 25, 2007 22:20:42 GMT -5
pertaining to jeremy not the original link...thats sick
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Post by JDawg on Jul 25, 2007 22:34:59 GMT -5
pertaining to jeremy not the original link...thats sick I don't get how something like this could ever happen. I guess everyone has corrupt morals these days.
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Post by Adelaide on Jul 26, 2007 0:45:39 GMT -5
Yeah, being a Muslim(albeit a non-religious one), I can definitely tell you that most of us are not like these lunatics that blow people up; most of us are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. I've never had a problem with any myself. I have had more problems with Indians, especially where I work, trying to cheat the system, AKA "Coupons." Also they feel they have the right to always argue with me when they clearly know they are wrong. Sorry but I just have a prejudice against them. Also, Chinese, just in specific since the V Tech incident, plus I had a recent argument with one, over a stupid receipt lol, long story. Your an absolute fucking idiot once again, Virginia Tech incident was caused by a Korean, two completley different countries.
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Post by Adelaide on Jul 26, 2007 0:48:47 GMT -5
No offense to you rag heads in here, but I cannot stand your religion for one reason. Terrorism breeds in mosques and mosques should not be allowed in any western civilization. When I am allowed to make my fucking Church in the middle east is when Muslims should be allowed to make mosques in my country.
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Post by nova on Jul 26, 2007 1:29:17 GMT -5
No offense to you rag heads in here, but I cannot stand your religion for one reason. Terrorism breeds in mosques and mosques should not be allowed in any western civilization. When I am allowed to make my fucking Church in the middle east is when Muslims should be allowed to make mosques in my country. So your saying that because a select group of the people are terrorists, the rest of us should not be able worship and pray? I'm sorry, but that is fucking bullshit. I'm not religious, but that is crap. Have you ever been to a mosque? If not, then you can't talk. There are many mosques in the US, where have you heard that terrorist discussions have gone in US mosques? If you've heard that, please, what is your source, show it to me.Seriously, show me the evidence. Do you have any proof? Or is this some Fox News bullshit? I've seen/heard nothing of the sort. What your saying is ignorant, and unless you can back that up with some evidence, it's a pointless argument. There are Christian churches in the Middle East...now, some Muslims resent Middle-Eastern Christians, and it's very unfortunate. However, by saying what you did, your stooping below their level. You say that because some of them 1/2 way across the world are terrorists, the rest of us over here in the States who for the most part are absolutely nothing like those bastards should suffer for it? Most Muslims are peaceful people, and the majority of us here in the States are embarrassed when we hear new stories about terrorist attacks. I'm not religious, but one of my closest friends is. Your saying because there are some violent jackasses over in the Middle Esat, that my friend can't go to a mosque and worship? That's beyond ludicrous. No one's saying that Muslims are perfect, but since 9/11, people judge all of us based on the actions of a select group of people, which is ridiculous. Any person with intelligence should realize that not all Muslims want to blow up Americans. Sure, most Muslims probably dislike America, hell, most of the World dislikes us, and I mean, is it hard to see why? We try to police the world and act like everyone else is inferior to us. Our government is a joke, we have nothing to brag about these days. Basically, stop trying to punish/criticize all Muslims for the actions of a select group of people. I could care less if you jokingly call me a terrorist, a dirty terrorist, a rag-head, whatever, I don't mind that. However, when you say something so blatantly ignorant, that bugs me.
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Post by James on Jul 26, 2007 2:01:23 GMT -5
I will restrain myself from voicing my opinions on Islam. Let's just say that if I could kill any one person in this world with my bare hands, it would be Australia's senior Muslim cleric, Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly.
FUCK.
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Post by Lumley316 on Jul 26, 2007 3:08:31 GMT -5
My wifes country harbors alot of the terrists training grounds in the lower parts of the country. Most of there type try to work all of are buying systems here in the USA. In majority of there countries they dont have a right to return or exchange anything so they get a big kick out of it here. I do hate as a saleman how they act like there my best friend when they just cost me tons of commission and time.
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Post by Adelaide on Jul 26, 2007 3:59:58 GMT -5
Muslim Mercenaries attacking Western Civilization in terrorist fashion. 7/7 1st World Trade Center's 9/11 USS Cole Embassy Bombings in Africa Indonesia Nightclub bombings El Al Ticket Desk at LAX Shoebomber Madrid Train Bombings Cronulla-not really religiously orientated but since gay australian lebs are gay so this happened Pan Am ......and many others Christian Mercenaries attacking the Middle East in forms of terrorism (crickets chirping) Now when I said "I cant stand your religion" it was more directed to hierarchy and the lack of religious tolerance from the foundation as a whole, not an attack on the people itself but more so on the ones who run it. However, We see this with the NBA, one person's actions represent a whole organization whether you or anyone else like it, and I really should leave it as that but I will break down every sentence you said. So your saying that because a select group of the people are terrorists, the rest of us should not be able worship and pray?Pretty much exactly what I'm saying, your not really allowed to do it in the Middle East so why should we let you do it here. Because this is the land of freedom and opportunity? Freedom and Opportunity allowing people to take advantage of this and use it against us. I will put it into a sports analogy. You allow the apposing team's fans to come into your home field but when a select few start shitting on it how are you suppose to feel. Once again refrain back to the "reflects on an organization as a whole" comment. Have you ever been to a mosque?Irrelevant. Why would I go to a mosque, I am a Christian. There are many mosques in the US, where have you heard that terrorist discussions have gone in US mosques?I said Western Civilization not the United States. In England, this is where all the terrorist shit goes down. Where the hell do you think they make their plans in an online chat room. They go to the mosques because they are untouchable in there, and all the radical clerics and they crazy supporters go down the hot list. You are ignorant if you believe that is untrue. 80 percent of American Mosques are run by Saudis and Wahabbism. Wahabbi's, there the guys that don't like us Americans that much. However just because Muslims pray at these Mosques doesn't mean they practice Wahabbism, most of them actually do not, it is the mosque itself and who it is run by that is the big kicker in my anger. Also clerics do shit in this country (as pointed out by Rep Peter King) to stop terrorism. They do absolutely nothing. Seriously, show me the evidence. Do you have any proof? Or is this some Fox News bullshit? I've seen/heard nothing of the sort.Open up your eyes. Just because you don't agree with Fox News doesn't mean there wrong. Here you though go.... www.localtechwire.com/news/national_world/world/story/1619557/www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/islamic_0.htmwww.cbn.com/cbnnews/usnews/041116a.aspxfindarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1272/is_2726_134/ai_n15863573whengoodmendonothing.com/islamiccenters.htmobserver.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1984530,00.html news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6275574.stmwww.csmonitor.com/2002/0805/p01s03-wogi.htmlmypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/086280.phpNot really a pointless argument eh....You can find more of these articles on the web to. There are Christian churches in the Middle East...now, some Muslims resent Middle-Eastern Christians, and it's very unfortunate.True, but that number is steeply declining and there are not any westerners in those churches. With the present Muslim Religious Cleansing in Iraq the amount of Christians is down to about 600,000 and don't you dare try to convert, you will be killed with your family. Find me the number though for the amount of Westerners starting up churches in the Middle East like Muslims are doing in the United States, England, Italy and all over Western Civilization. I will give you a hint, it isn't too high and we are definitely not using the any ones we have for terrorism reasons (not saying every one made in the West is doing so too.)
You say that because some of them 1/2 way across the world are terrorists, the rest of us over here in the States who for the most part are absolutely nothing like those bastards should suffer for it?Silly Nova, many terrorists are residing in an Western Civilization near you. Of course most of them come from the Middle East, but how are they going to hijack a plane leaving Newark at 8:00 if they are in Riyadh, or blow up the World Trade Center at Noon if they are Praying in Muscat. Most terrorists reside in the places they attack for a certain amount of time. Most of the guys on 7/7 lived in Britain there whole life, the 9/11 guys lived in Florida for a certain period of time. Once again a dumb statement to make. Most Muslims are peaceful people, and the majority of us here in the States are embarrassed when we hear new stories about terrorist attacks.
Then tell them to stand up for once, denounce the people who make them look bad. Make their voices be heard. Your saying because there are some violent jackasses over in the Middle Esat, that my friend can't go to a mosque and worship? That's beyond ludicrous.That's exactly what I'm saying, if closing down every Mosque in this country would prevent mass hysteria ever day with people fearing that they could be a victim of some stupid religious bullshit then I am all for it. If closing down Mosques would prevent people from getting blown up or dieing then I am all for that too. Call me Ignorant. Call me a Nationalist. Call me a Facist. I really could give a shit. Tell your friend to get one of the many nice Muslim people you talk about to fund his own Islamic Center and not get the funding from the Middle East and I would be all for it. . Sure, most Muslims probably dislike America, hell, most of the World dislikes us, and I mean, is it hard to see why?So I'm not allowed to dislike Muslims then, (not saying I do) but thats a politically incorrect statement. Not all Americans are bad people but Muslims dislike us (according to you). Not all Muslims are bad people but Americans aren't allowed to dislike them? It's the same message with my view on Mosques and Churches....they aren't going to be nice to us but we are going to be nice to them and use our freedoms and laws like countries like Saudi Arabia do not have and use it against us. They play us like a fiddle (or some do at least) No one's saying that Muslims are perfect, but since 9/11, people judge all of us based on the actions of a select group of people, which is ridiculous.That is life my friend get use to it.
I could care less if you jokingly call me a terrorist, a dirty terrorist, a rag-head, whatever, I don't mind that. However, when you say something so blatantly ignorant, that bugs me.
If I have to hurt some feelings for the bigger picture of things then I will do so. If I offended the whole Muslim religion I am sorry, forgive me I know there are some good people out there but the "bad apples" make them worse. And maybe one day when you get four phone calls in four different months saying they just found a different body part from your father you might feel the same way I do. So if stopping a religion from establishing their religion in my country is gonna bring back gonna allow a 4 year old boy to have his mother or a Husband to have his wife back then I am all fucking for it. Mafmaf.
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Post by Adelaide on Jul 26, 2007 4:04:11 GMT -5
I will restrain myself from voicing my opinions on Islam. Let's just say that if I could kill any one person in this world with my bare hands, it would be Australia's senior Muslim cleric, Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly. FUCK. Fucking Lebs.
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Post by JDawg on Jul 26, 2007 10:05:33 GMT -5
Read all this stuff from Pig. Great insight on your part. Kinda scary to think about some of your points. Who can we trust then??
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Post by nova on Jul 26, 2007 11:50:31 GMT -5
Muslim Mercenaries attacking Western Civilization in terrorist fashion. 7/7 1st World Trade Center's 9/11 USS Cole Embassy Bombings in Africa Indonesia Nightclub bombings El Al Ticket Desk at LAX Shoebomber Madrid Train Bombings Cronulla-not really religiously orientated but since gay australian lebs are gay so this happened Pan Am ......and many others Christian Mercenaries attacking the Middle East in forms of terrorism (crickets chirping) Now when I said "I cant stand your religion" it was more directed to hierarchy and the lack of religious tolerance from the foundation as a whole, not an attack on the people itself but more so on the ones who run it. However, We see this with the NBA, one person's actions represent a whole organization whether you or anyone else like it, and I really should leave it as that but I will break down every sentence you said. So your saying that because a select group of the people are terrorists, the rest of us should not be able worship and pray?Pretty much exactly what I'm saying, your not really allowed to do it in the Middle East so why should we let you do it here. Because this is the land of freedom and opportunity? Freedom and Opportunity allowing people to take advantage of this and use it against us. I will put it into a sports analogy. You allow the apposing team's fans to come into your home field but when a select few start shitting on it how are you suppose to feel. Once again refrain back to the "reflects on an organization as a whole" comment. Have you ever been to a mosque?Irrelevant. Why would I go to a mosque, I am a Christian. There are many mosques in the US, where have you heard that terrorist discussions have gone in US mosques?I said Western Civilization not the United States. In England, this is where all the terrorist shit goes down. Where the hell do you think they make their plans in an online chat room. They go to the mosques because they are untouchable in there, and all the radical clerics and they crazy supporters go down the hot list. You are ignorant if you believe that is untrue. 80 percent of American Mosques are run by Saudis and Wahabbism. Wahabbi's, there the guys that don't like us Americans that much. However just because Muslims pray at these Mosques doesn't mean they practice Wahabbism, most of them actually do not, it is the mosque itself and who it is run by that is the big kicker in my anger. Also clerics do shit in this country (as pointed out by Rep Peter King) to stop terrorism. They do absolutely nothing. Seriously, show me the evidence. Do you have any proof? Or is this some Fox News bullshit? I've seen/heard nothing of the sort.Open up your eyes. Just because you don't agree with Fox News doesn't mean there wrong. Here you though go.... www.localtechwire.com/news/national_world/world/story/1619557/www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/islamic_0.htmwww.cbn.com/cbnnews/usnews/041116a.aspxfindarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1272/is_2726_134/ai_n15863573whengoodmendonothing.com/islamiccenters.htmobserver.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1984530,00.html news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6275574.stmwww.csmonitor.com/2002/0805/p01s03-wogi.htmlmypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/086280.phpNot really a pointless argument eh....You can find more of these articles on the web to. There are Christian churches in the Middle East...now, some Muslims resent Middle-Eastern Christians, and it's very unfortunate.True, but that number is steeply declining and there are not any westerners in those churches. With the present Muslim Religious Cleansing in Iraq the amount of Christians is down to about 600,000 and don't you dare try to convert, you will be killed with your family. Find me the number though for the amount of Westerners starting up churches in the Middle East like Muslims are doing in the United States, England, Italy and all over Western Civilization. I will give you a hint, it isn't too high and we are definitely not using the any ones we have for terrorism reasons (not saying every one made in the West is doing so too.)
You say that because some of them 1/2 way across the world are terrorists, the rest of us over here in the States who for the most part are absolutely nothing like those bastards should suffer for it?Silly Nova, many terrorists are residing in an Western Civilization near you. Of course most of them come from the Middle East, but how are they going to hijack a plane leaving Newark at 8:00 if they are in Riyadh, or blow up the World Trade Center at Noon if they are Praying in Muscat. Most terrorists reside in the places they attack for a certain amount of time. Most of the guys on 7/7 lived in Britain there whole life, the 9/11 guys lived in Florida for a certain period of time. Once again a dumb statement to make. Most Muslims are peaceful people, and the majority of us here in the States are embarrassed when we hear new stories about terrorist attacks.
Then tell them to stand up for once, denounce the people who make them look bad. Make their voices be heard. Your saying because there are some violent jackasses over in the Middle Esat, that my friend can't go to a mosque and worship? That's beyond ludicrous.That's exactly what I'm saying, if closing down every Mosque in this country would prevent mass hysteria ever day with people fearing that they could be a victim of some stupid religious bullshit then I am all for it. If closing down Mosques would prevent people from getting blown up or dieing then I am all for that too. Call me Ignorant. Call me a Nationalist. Call me a Facist. I really could give a shit. Tell your friend to get one of the many nice Muslim people you talk about to fund his own Islamic Center and not get the funding from the Middle East and I would be all for it. . Sure, most Muslims probably dislike America, hell, most of the World dislikes us, and I mean, is it hard to see why?So I'm not allowed to dislike Muslims then, (not saying I do) but thats a politically incorrect statement. Not all Americans are bad people but Muslims dislike us (according to you). Not all Muslims are bad people but Americans aren't allowed to dislike them? It's the same message with my view on Mosques and Churches....they aren't going to be nice to us but we are going to be nice to them and use our freedoms and laws like countries like Saudi Arabia do not have and use it against us. They play us like a fiddle (or some do at least) No one's saying that Muslims are perfect, but since 9/11, people judge all of us based on the actions of a select group of people, which is ridiculous.That is life my friend get use to it.
I could care less if you jokingly call me a terrorist, a dirty terrorist, a rag-head, whatever, I don't mind that. However, when you say something so blatantly ignorant, that bugs me.
If I have to hurt some feelings for the bigger picture of things then I will do so. If I offended the whole Muslim religion I am sorry, forgive me I know there are some good people out there but the "bad apples" make them worse. And maybe one day when you get four phone calls in four different months saying they just found a different body part from your father you might feel the same way I do. So if stopping a religion from establishing their religion in my country is gonna bring back gonna allow a 4 year old boy to have his mother or a Husband to have his wife back then I am all fucking for it. First off, I'm truly sorry to hear about your father. I had no idea, and so I obviously can't understand where your coming from as I've never experienced something like that myself. Now, onto my response. No one ever said that Muslims are perfect, I'm not ignorant, I realize that 90% of the terrorist attacks are done by Muslims. Second, I agree with you 100%. The people who run the religion are absolute fucking morons. But should we punish the people of the religion for that? That's basically like saying that because Saddam was a horrible president, we should punish his citizens(which in a way, we actually have). Yes you did say Western Civilization, but you also said, and I quote "When I am allowed to make my fucking Church in the middle east is when Muslims should be allowed to make mosques in my country." Therefore, I figured you were talking about the mosques in the US. As for your links, some of them appear to have merit, so I will give you that one. Your right, there probably are some terrorist cells within mosques, but not just in the U.S., all around the world. That's not the fault of the Muslim people, that's the fault of the clerics and the imams. While it's true most terrorists do reside in their target-areas for a certain amount of time, what are you saying we should do about it? Should we ban all Muslims from entering the country? I hope your not suggesting that, because that's downright ridiculous. What do you expect small suburban familes of Muslims to do about terrorist cells in the Middle East? We don't know anything about it, but when they do something stupid, no matter how much we denounce them and say how dispicable it is, we still have to deal with some of the consequences. If you shut down mosques, that will do absolutely nothing to stop terrorrism. It'll make the radical Muslims hate us even more then they already do. Basically, all that will do, is lead to an increase in hatred of the U.S., and lead to an increase in the # of terrorrists, and lead to an increase in general terrorism. It would just make things worse. II never said all Muslims dislike America, I said some do. I also said most of the world dislikes us. It's not just Muslims. Most countries can't stand us nowadays, it's not just religious groups. The reason Muslims and other people all around the world hate us is because we invaded their region and made things 10x worse then it already was, and we've been threatening to do that to another country in Iran. Now, I have hundreds of family members over there, so this may cloud my judgement. I personally would rather not hear about my 3 year old cousin & the rest of his family getting blown up by the U.S. Military. They hate us because we've threatened them. They did not begin to hate us for no reason, we brought this hate upon ourselves. And in a way, Muslims did too, that's true. However, if Americans are really better then the rest of the world like they say they are, then they should act like the better people. They shouldn't judge an entire religion by a group of people within that religion. Finally, as I mentioned, I don't know what it's like to be in your shoes. But, the same applies to me. How do you think it feels when your a 9 year old kid and you hear that a group of Muslims have killed thousands of U.S. Citizens? I've dealt with a LOT of bullshit, and even to this day in HS, there are some ignorant motherfuckers who still give me shit. I don't want to argue with you, I don't have any issues with you personally and I respect that you can back up your opinion with some facts, but shutting down mosques will do nothing to stop terrorism, and that's all there is to it.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 26, 2007 12:03:53 GMT -5
To me, religion in itself is pointless, regardless of the religion. Religion is a reason to, make money, or inflate the egos of those in charge. Either way its quite pointless and disturbing on many levels.
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