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Post by Skillz on Nov 5, 2007 16:19:56 GMT -5
Hawks Trade:
Thabo Sefoloshofa
Grizz Trade:
Tyrus Thomas Bobby Jones Hawks 2011 1st rounder Grizz 2013 2nd rounder
I agree. Sucks to give Thabo, but i like the package i get back. I really like TT, and i like what he can bring to the table off the bench. His blocks are a rarity, so it will be nice having a player like him ESPECIALLY if he improves in TC. We also get our 1st back as a safety net in case we fuck up....but our goal is to contend seeing as bender traded all future 1sts.
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 5, 2007 16:20:48 GMT -5
everyone keeps saying that TT won't develop.. for once I'll pay attention to everyone.
That atlanta hawks pick went to shit when he landed Chandler.. good deal.
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 5, 2007 16:29:51 GMT -5
OH MY GOD YOU DEALT ATLANTA THEIR 2011 BACK...YOU ARE HORRENDOUS
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 5, 2007 16:36:40 GMT -5
cool
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 5, 2007 16:40:21 GMT -5
skillz is 1) not Bender 2)don't think ever had a losing season(in the east no less) 3) has a better starting line-up than me and you combined.
If he can't make playoffs atleast hit 40 wins.. well then.. IDK.
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Post by Skillz on Nov 5, 2007 16:42:25 GMT -5
If we don't make the playoffs barring injury or huge fuck up, that would be a HUGE dissapointment.
Chandler/Varejao/Ak/Mccants/Williams with ariza, tt on the bench should definitely get the job done
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 5, 2007 16:49:40 GMT -5
That team is pretty far off in the East. Not top 10.
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 5, 2007 16:50:13 GMT -5
skillz is 1) not Bender 2)don't think ever had a losing season(in the east no less) 3) has a better starting line-up than me and you combined. If he can't make playoffs atleast hit 40 wins.. well then.. IDK. You forget Skills took over the Nets and ruined them.
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 5, 2007 16:50:25 GMT -5
if he doesn't make playoffs i'll quit forever
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 5, 2007 16:50:48 GMT -5
skillz is 1) not Bender 2)don't think ever had a losing season(in the east no less) 3) has a better starting line-up than me and you combined. If he can't make playoffs atleast hit 40 wins.. well then.. IDK. What? Skillz took over TD+KG and they ended up a bad losing team.
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 5, 2007 16:51:11 GMT -5
i thought skillz had the nets since day 1
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 5, 2007 16:53:03 GMT -5
OH lord.. i think you're right.. yeah i'm fucked...
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Post by Skillz on Nov 5, 2007 16:59:23 GMT -5
skillz is 1) not Bender 2)don't think ever had a losing season(in the east no less) 3) has a better starting line-up than me and you combined. If he can't make playoffs atleast hit 40 wins.. well then.. IDK. You forget Skills took over the Nets and ruined them. what are you talking about? I went from an old team of duncan, fortson, trent, allan houston, jayson williams to a young team with a lot of promise. If you need a refresher, go look at my old trades.
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Post by Skillz on Nov 5, 2007 17:00:40 GMT -5
skillz is 1) not Bender 2)don't think ever had a losing season(in the east no less) 3) has a better starting line-up than me and you combined. If he can't make playoffs atleast hit 40 wins.. well then.. IDK. What? Skillz took over TD+KG and they ended up a bad losing team. wrong again I NEVER had kevin garnett on the nets
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 5, 2007 17:06:17 GMT -5
You forget Skills took over the Nets and ruined them. what are you talking about? I went from an old team of duncan, fortson, trent, allan houston, jayson williams to a young team with a lot of promise. If you need a refresher, go look at my old trades. Tell me the lineup you left them with. I know it was awful and I have no interest in looking it up. You traded in cycles and the team was going nowhere. I was always waiting to see if it would amount to something, and thought you might not have had enough time before you had problems. Not faulting you. I just know you didn't do a very impressive job. The KG thing, I was thinking of Duce's team. Still, Fortson was the best inside scorer for awhile, Trent had an A- inside, Houston was basically a Mike Redd/Ben Gordon type, and Jason Williams was A-/B+/B if I recall, and it ended up a pretty bad roster.
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Post by Skillz on Nov 5, 2007 17:15:15 GMT -5
I think you are mistaken
I remember my roster pretty well
TD, who was td...great....got a good deal for him
Fortson, he was a tremendous inside scorer who had ZERO value throughout the league. I remember trying to deal him for a rebuilding package but no one would trade me anything because of his contract. Ended up getting rashard lewis
Gary Trent, he was OK...Didn't have any value. I got Deshawn Stevenson and Darius Miles for him, both of whom had big tc's and had A potential afer i traded for them
Allan Houston was my sg LOL. He may have been a michael redd type a few years earlier. But he sucked when i had him. He was like C+ A- C C+ C- D and 34 years old....I don't remember trading him, just remember getting a better sg
Jayson Williams was pretty solid, though didn't do anything to our rebuilding plan considering he was a vet with a 3 year deal. I think he was C A- B B+ D+ D...something like that maybe?
TD was awesome, but i got a great trade for him...I actually just looked at all of my prior trades. I was basically a 3-way where i dealt TD for curry, randolph, jrich, 3 1sts, rc's. I later traded jrich for the nets 1sts that the prior gm traded, where i started my rebuild and picked up bogut and nate.
My roster when i left was Nate (coming off an amazing 1st tc if you remember)/Steve Francis/Caron Butler/Tom Guggliota/Chris Kaman
On the bench we had: Jamaal Magloire/Robert Swift (soon to breakout)/Ridnour/Luther Head
Not to mention our 1sts for the next 2 years and 3 2007 1st round picks
How did our team go in cycles? We were basically going into our 3rd year rebuilding, where we finally had a team that could make a run for the playoffs. We were above .500 before i left...
I don't know why i'm getting a bad rap for my tenure with the nets. I didn't do a GREAT job, but i definitely didn't do a bad job. Maybe it's because the lack of success after i left?
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Post by Adelaide on Nov 5, 2007 17:30:06 GMT -5
Skillz dosen't have the scoring as of now to be a 40 win team in the east even with Kirilenko.
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Post by Dan on Nov 5, 2007 18:13:08 GMT -5
mark did have a pretty good thing going with the nets if i remember right.
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Post by James on Nov 5, 2007 18:23:08 GMT -5
Not sure if I'd deal Atlanta their pick back.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 5, 2007 20:37:07 GMT -5
trade in
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