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Post by garf2000 on Oct 29, 2007 15:33:14 GMT -5
Lakers Trade Eric Gordon
Magic Trade Cavs Pick 2010 Celtics 2011 Wilson Chandler
*Stipulations* If the Cavs Pick falls out of the Top 3, deal is off. If Spencer takes the job of the Celtics assistant (unless it is to take apart the team and trade Dwight for the pick) deal is off.
If the Cavs pick lands #1, Magic receive Lakers and Heat 2010.
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 29, 2007 15:33:37 GMT -5
deaaaaaal EG
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 29, 2007 15:39:17 GMT -5
Anyway, yeah. Gordon and Greene on the perimeter is exactly what I wanted to rebuild around. Hopefully with a good TC or two..or three...I can have a great perimeter duo. I'll try to sort out my bigs with my three firsts this year.
And if the Cavs 1st doesn't end up top 3, oh well. Fuck.
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 29, 2007 15:42:41 GMT -5
I make the deal because I have Tyreke as my young stud SG, and hopefully I can add another great big man or even DeRozan.
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Post by nova on Oct 29, 2007 15:49:57 GMT -5
Wow, I love it for LA.
Gordon could be pretty nice, but I think DeRozan & Sidney will be a lot better IMO.
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 29, 2007 15:55:33 GMT -5
I'll have to jump up a spot to get one of them, but if that happens I'd be thrilled...
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Post by nova on Oct 29, 2007 15:59:20 GMT -5
Yeah, but even if you don't, getting someone like Koufos, Jennings, Shved, or Jordan is still nice, and that Celts 1st could very easily be a lotto pick next year.
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 29, 2007 16:18:31 GMT -5
Yeah, but even if you don't, getting someone like Koufos, Jennings, Shved, or Jordan is still nice, and that Celts 1st could very easily be a lotto pick next year. Yeah, didn't I get Eric Gordon?
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Post by nova on Oct 29, 2007 16:20:16 GMT -5
Yes, and I like Gordon a lot, I just think that he got the better end of the deal.
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 29, 2007 16:28:38 GMT -5
Fuck you Aaron... Birthday rape!
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Post by Mark on Oct 29, 2007 16:37:15 GMT -5
I'm taking DeRozan. Can't wait.
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Post by Dan on Oct 29, 2007 16:41:01 GMT -5
Good shit, like this for both.
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Post by Mark on Oct 29, 2007 16:42:43 GMT -5
Good shit, like this for both. Loved the show. I felt the Timbaland.
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Post by Adelaide on Oct 29, 2007 16:50:29 GMT -5
Hate this for Aaron just because I am not sold on Eric Gordon. He has done shit TC wise in two years.
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Post by Dan on Oct 29, 2007 16:52:54 GMT -5
Hate this for Aaron just because I am not sold on Eric Gordon. He has done shit TC wise in two years. hes only 20
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Post by Adelaide on Oct 29, 2007 16:55:18 GMT -5
Hate this for Aaron just because I am not sold on Eric Gordon. He has done shit TC wise in two years. hes only 20 Awesome, doesn't take away from the fact he hasn't done shit. Maybe he booms in TC but he is in no way worth more then a top 3 pick in this draft especially after he has shown no improvement. Huge gamble.
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 29, 2007 17:04:49 GMT -5
Hate this for Aaron just because I am not sold on Eric Gordon. He has done shit TC wise in two years. Takes about five seasons for potential to develop, and I've never seen a top five pick in BBS even bust really. Gordon's exactly what I wanted, and he has A potential. I see him as a better Redd. B- defense and 20 should get him to B+/A-, and the scoring game will at worst be B-/A.
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 29, 2007 17:05:57 GMT -5
Awesome, doesn't take away from the fact he hasn't done shit. Maybe he booms in TC but he is in no way worth more then a top 3 pick in this draft especially after he has shown no improvement. Huge gamble. 20 year old with A potential and good ratings isn't a gamble. Pig, what do you think his worst case scenario is? It's not like potential just fades out without the guy improving.
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 29, 2007 17:08:04 GMT -5
Nolan Smith 2.0!!!
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 29, 2007 17:09:09 GMT -5
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 29, 2007 17:10:46 GMT -5
What was his best season, 30mpg, 14ppg 6apg?
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Post by Adelaide on Oct 29, 2007 17:10:50 GMT -5
Awesome, doesn't take away from the fact he hasn't done shit. Maybe he booms in TC but he is in no way worth more then a top 3 pick in this draft especially after he has shown no improvement. Huge gamble. 20 year old with A potential and good ratings isn't a gamble. Pig, what do you think his worst case scenario is? It's not like potential just fades out without the guy improving. Its scouted first off, what happens if he was just a bust. Also, potential does fade off without someone improving for what I understand in some cases. He has barely improved in two years and I think the projected top 3 will be better then him let alone the Celtics pick as well. The guy has done nothing in his two years here that amount to you giving up that much value for him IMO.
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Post by Adelaide on Oct 29, 2007 17:14:32 GMT -5
I missed the post above that one I quoted.
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Post by nova on Oct 29, 2007 17:14:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I still think Gordon will be pretty nice, but considering he hasn't improved yet, I do think you gave up too much for him. It's not that I don't think he'll be good, it's that what he's shown doesn't warrant the value that Hernando receives in the deal.
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Post by aaronjh on Oct 29, 2007 17:15:39 GMT -5
20 year old with A potential and good ratings isn't a gamble. Pig, what do you think his worst case scenario is? It's not like potential just fades out without the guy improving. Its scouted first off, what happens if he was just a bust. Also, potential does fade off without someone improving for what I understand in some cases. He has barely improved in two years and I think the projected top 3 will be better then him let alone the Celtics pick as well. The guy has done nothing in his two years here that amount to you giving up that much value for him IMO. If he's a nothing after TC, fine. But two TC's is no indication that a guy is a bust, and I've never known a guy with 90 potential or higher to not have at least one big TC. Projected three to me is Jordan. I'm not a fan of the lotto outside of the top two, and Jordan projects to be a good big man, but I've been looking to build around two great scoring wings and that's what I'm hoping I got here. I didn't worry about Gordon's TC's because you're not supposed to expode at 19 or 20, which is why I assumed it took Monta, Louis, Bron, Bynum awhile to explode. I think I'm right. You'd have a hard time convincing me Gordon's not going to be a star.
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