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Post by Spencer on Jun 19, 2007 14:40:42 GMT -5
You couldve easily gotten a big man like Keith Closs for Christie and picks or RCs.
You couldve easily dealt Livi for a solid young big man.
Lets see some offers for Livingston. Why trade James. I just fail to see how this was the best thing to do, especially after 1 sim.
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Post by Spencer on Jun 19, 2007 14:41:28 GMT -5
Also, 6-4 now for the Nuggets. Didnt beat spectacular teams, but in the West, most teams arent spectacular.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 19, 2007 14:41:51 GMT -5
I talked to Miami, he said his FINAL offer was the Gasol offer. Dan just stated my exact point, he wouldn't move Deng for LBJ. The only other team that actually had a good chance aside from Detroit here was LA...his offer probably was a bit better. Seriously, this is retarded. If this were Deng, who by all accounts looks better then LBJ, for AK, Granger, a lotto 1st, and another 1st, you would all be praising Basone for that deal. Just because the player's name is LeBron James, it's a bad deal for us. You've been in the league 3 days...
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Post by nova on Jun 19, 2007 14:42:54 GMT -5
Marvin + Camby againn makes no sense for us.
We wanted a stud young big man, we got one. We also got a solid young rookie swingman, a lotto 1st, and another solid 1st next season.
If your gonna veto it, go ahead, but you are all seriously overreacting...it's not as if LBJ has B+ A- B B+ C+ A ratings....he's used up all his RC's and is only B A- C+ B- C+ B...he's had 3 TC's...I'd be shocked if his defense ever got to B+.
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Post by ducky on Jun 19, 2007 14:43:30 GMT -5
Aight whatever I screwed up. I'm out of it. I've been hella busy this weekend, and I just thought I need to make some moves to stay in this league. I guess it isn't the best, but I still do think it could give us more wins...
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 19, 2007 14:43:33 GMT -5
You couldve easily gotten a big man like Keith Closs for Christie and picks or RCs. You couldve easily dealt Livi for a solid young big man. Lets see some offers for Livingston. Why trade James. I just fail to see how this was the best thing to do, especially after 1 sim. Completely agree also considering that offer for Closs would be right up the rebuilding Jazz's alley...Baby steps is all would take to get this team to 40 wins which has been forever my point! Either way I think Ducky/Nova should both be fired
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Post by Skillz on Jun 19, 2007 14:43:34 GMT -5
i like livi BTW...lol
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 19, 2007 14:44:42 GMT -5
Marvin + Camby againn makes no sense for us. We wanted a stud young big man, we got one. We also got a solid young rookie swingman, a lotto 1st, and another solid 1st next season. If your gonna veto it, go ahead, but you are all seriously overreacting...it's not as if LBJ has B+ A- B B+ C+ A ratings....he's used up all his RC's and is only B A- C+ B- C+ B...he's had 3 TC's...I'd be shocked if his defense ever got to B+. No shit it doesn't make sense! thats my point AK a stud big man? since when?
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Post by Bender on Jun 19, 2007 14:46:05 GMT -5
what the fuck what did u not understand about me saying u trade for a big man to put with lebron good lord man i think u mad a poor decision and ave is gonna rip u apart more
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Post by Bender on Jun 19, 2007 14:47:47 GMT -5
i also like livingston
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Post by nova on Jun 19, 2007 14:47:55 GMT -5
what the fuck what did u not understand about me saying u trade for a big man to put with lebron good lord man i think u mad a poor decision and ave is gonna rip u apart more I would respect your opinion more if I could understand what you were saying.
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Post by ducky on Jun 19, 2007 14:48:21 GMT -5
what the fuck what did u not understand about me saying u trade for a big man to put with lebron good lord man i think u mad a poor decision and ave is gonna rip u apart more I would respect your opinion more if I could understand what you were saying.
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Post by nova on Jun 19, 2007 14:48:45 GMT -5
LeBron James on Draft Day:
B C+ C+ C+ C+ A
LeBron James, 3 TC's later with 3 RC's in him:
B A- C+ B- C+ A
That's some awesome improvement, isn't it?
Not to mention, without the 3rd RC, he woulda still been at C+ defense, meaning he'd only improved outside shooting.
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Post by Bender on Jun 19, 2007 14:49:09 GMT -5
is this trade getting vetoed
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Post by ducky on Jun 19, 2007 14:49:37 GMT -5
is this trade getting vetoed I requested to Spence that it does, and that he fires me.
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Post by The X-Factor on Jun 19, 2007 14:50:52 GMT -5
LeBron James on Draft Day: B C+ C+ C+ C+ A LeBron James, 3 TC's later with 3 RC's in him: B A- C+ B- C+ A That's some awesome improvement, isn't it? Not to mention, without the 3rd RC, he woulda still been at C+ defense, meaning he'd only improved outside shooting. it took Joe Johnson 5 seasons to get to the ratings he's at now... what's your point?
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Post by The X-Factor on Jun 19, 2007 14:52:56 GMT -5
LeBron James on Draft Day: B C+ C+ C+ C+ A LeBron James, 3 TC's later with 3 RC's in him: B A- C+ B- C+ A That's some awesome improvement, isn't it? Not to mention, without the 3rd RC, he woulda still been at C+ defense, meaning he'd only improved outside shooting. it took Joe Johnson 5 seasons to get to the ratings he's at now... what's your point?
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Post by nybombers3 on Jun 19, 2007 14:54:42 GMT -5
what the fuck what did u not understand about me saying u trade for a big man to put with lebron good lord man i think u mad a poor decision and ave is gonna rip u apart more All I got from this was "U Mad".
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Post by Bender on Jun 19, 2007 14:55:00 GMT -5
no u shouldnt get fired but i think this was a quick decision on ur ppart. in the heat of the moment between you and dave fighting back and forth. aaron found an opportunity thats why he's such a good gm he takes advantage of opportunities. what i was saying to you is you had good prrospects in smith and livingston and the fact that you havee van horn made you loaded at that position. what you could have done. was traded livingston or smith to get a better big man and a nice young backup.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jun 19, 2007 14:55:31 GMT -5
Valid point martinez
and Nova don't make fun of Bender he has fat finger syndrome and can't type that well
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Post by ducky on Jun 19, 2007 14:56:04 GMT -5
no u shouldnt get fired but i think this was a quick decision on ur ppart. in the heat of the moment between you and dave fighting back and forth. aaron found an opportunity thats why he's such a good gm he takes advantage of opportunities. what i was saying to you is you had good prrospects in smith and livingston and the fact that you havee van horn made you loaded at that position. what you could have done. was traded livingston or smith to get a better big man and a nice young backup. It was a mix of frustration and quick to act mentality that fucked me up. I was just trying to keep my job, and clearly I did the opposite .
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Post by gmgreggor on Jun 19, 2007 14:56:32 GMT -5
I dont know. I dont like piling on and dont like to weigh in on trades generally. Only other time I think I did is when there was that stipulation in the JJtrade.
History will decide whether it was a good trade or bad and on surface it may look not so even now but decisions to veto sets precedence for other vetoes.
I dunno, Denver made it, Detroit accepted it so it's a deal unless both teams willingly agree to rescind the deal. I just dont like the vetoing stuff. I've been in baseball lgs where that happened and man it just grows into a monster.
However having said that whatever is decided by Spencer is fine since it's his lg, so be it.
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Post by The X-Factor on Jun 19, 2007 14:57:10 GMT -5
trades can be vetoed in real life... that's a part of reality.
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Post by Bender on Jun 19, 2007 14:57:13 GMT -5
ha ha im a fast typer and i dont realize my typing mistakes. let's try this again . you find a big man to pair with lebron. don't trade lebron unless your getting multiple pieces that will be with you for a long time and make you reach that next plateau. Then i commented how i think he made a mistake
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Post by garf2000 on Jun 19, 2007 14:59:02 GMT -5
theo ratliff anyone?
but in actuallity, nova was begging me to take lebron from him for 2 days, but the truth is i didn't want to part with diaw, emeka, and some nice picks for someone with terrible defense.
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