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Nov 21, 2006 15:17:04 GMT -5
Post by Outlawz on Nov 21, 2006 15:17:04 GMT -5
You guys are just against it because you need freebies to be able to build a team. I dont know about anyone else but i like to do things and know that i did it without any help. I guess Spence feels you guys aren't good enough to not have em. Might as well have kept BBS if everything is basically the same.
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Nov 21, 2006 16:09:26 GMT -5
Post by KG on Nov 21, 2006 16:09:26 GMT -5
I don't think picks should be given to the weaker teams, just forfeited.
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Nov 21, 2006 16:41:14 GMT -5
Post by Outlawz on Nov 21, 2006 16:41:14 GMT -5
Exactly
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Nov 21, 2006 16:50:01 GMT -5
Post by Dan on Nov 21, 2006 16:50:01 GMT -5
You guys are just against it because you need freebies to be able to build a team. I dont know about anyone else but i like to do things and know that i did it without any help. I guess Spence feels you guys aren't good enough to not have em. Might as well have kept BBS if everything is basically the same. what are you talking about? Freebies, this is the way bbs has been forever and this was not the "rule" that needed to be fix. The problem was teams have 20 picks in certain drafts which would lead to dominance. Dont talk like your such a higher gm then everyone else because your not. It should be kept to take away things from people not obeying the rules and paying players to much, its your own fault if it happens to you.
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Nov 21, 2006 18:16:31 GMT -5
Post by aaronjh on Nov 21, 2006 18:16:31 GMT -5
You guys are just against it because you need freebies to be able to build a team. I dont know about anyone else but i like to do things and know that i did it without any help. I guess Spence feels you guys aren't good enough to not have em. Might as well have kept BBS if everything is basically the same. Go fuck yourself.
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Nov 21, 2006 18:17:05 GMT -5
Post by Outlawz on Nov 21, 2006 18:17:05 GMT -5
You guys are just against it because you need freebies to be able to build a team. I dont know about anyone else but i like to do things and know that i did it without any help. I guess Spence feels you guys aren't good enough to not have em. Might as well have kept BBS if everything is basically the same. what are you talking about? Freebies, this is the way bbs has been forever and this was not the "rule" that needed to be fix. The problem was teams have 20 picks in certain drafts which would lead to dominance. Dont talk like your such a higher gm then everyone else because your not. It should be kept to take away things from people not obeying the rules and paying players to much, its your own fault if it happens to you. I don't think im better than anyone but I know I'm definitely one of the better gm's. That's not the point tho. My point is if we have to give up picks fine but I don't see why teams that suck should get picks. Things like picks should be earned and obtained not given away. If I have to forfeit all my picks fine but no way any other team should get em.
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Nov 21, 2006 18:24:52 GMT -5
Post by KG on Nov 21, 2006 18:24:52 GMT -5
If we're going for realism, the picks to weaker teams aspect should be scrapped. I have no problems with the punishments, but the picks should be forfeited instead.
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Nov 21, 2006 18:32:18 GMT -5
Post by KruPaxson on Nov 21, 2006 18:32:18 GMT -5
what are you talking about? Freebies, this is the way bbs has been forever and this was not the "rule" that needed to be fix. The problem was teams have 20 picks in certain drafts which would lead to dominance. Dont talk like your such a higher gm then everyone else because your not. It should be kept to take away things from people not obeying the rules and paying players to much, its your own fault if it happens to you. I don't think im better than anyone but I know I'm definitely one of the better gm's. That's not the point tho. My point is if we have to give up picks fine but I don't see why teams that suck should get picks. Things like picks should be earned and obtained not given away. If I have to forfeit all my picks fine but no way any other team should get em. this is a tough debate. I think the picks really helps league parity and its really a bad thing for the league if a team is just obissmal but then on the other hand I really hated the fact when teams would tank and then down the road get studs due to the fact of their own stupidity or lack of skills.
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Nov 21, 2006 18:35:32 GMT -5
Post by Dan on Nov 21, 2006 18:35:32 GMT -5
what are you talking about? Freebies, this is the way bbs has been forever and this was not the "rule" that needed to be fix. The problem was teams have 20 picks in certain drafts which would lead to dominance. Dont talk like your such a higher gm then everyone else because your not. It should be kept to take away things from people not obeying the rules and paying players to much, its your own fault if it happens to you. I don't think im better than anyone but I know I'm definitely one of the better gm's. That's not the point tho. My point is if we have to give up picks fine but I don't see why teams that suck should get picks. Things like picks should be earned and obtained not given away. If I have to forfeit all my picks fine but no way any other team should get em. "I guess spence feels you guys arent good enough to have em" "I am one of the better gms" Congrats on categorizing yourself in this position because clearly you have shown that you are one of the best. yeah ok. Please, when you want to rebuild, you will be happy you are getting these picks. Its a nice thing to get, plus the picks usually suck.
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Nov 21, 2006 19:20:01 GMT -5
Post by Outlawz on Nov 21, 2006 19:20:01 GMT -5
Ok, I said "I think I'm one of the better gm's". I think I proved that by turning a dreadful clipper francise into a powerhouse plus I did win this last season. I'll put an asterisk next to that but I put together a great team regardless.
The picks don't always suck and no I don't to be given picks but obviously if the rule is still there then I'll take em
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Nov 21, 2006 19:23:29 GMT -5
Post by ducky on Nov 21, 2006 19:23:29 GMT -5
I don't think picks should be given to the weaker teams, just forfeited. lol, then half the draft picks will be skipped? That's the dumbest thing ever... Guys with the 20th pick will actually have like the 10th pick, cuz some were skipped? sounds silly to me.
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Nov 21, 2006 19:36:15 GMT -5
Post by KG on Nov 21, 2006 19:36:15 GMT -5
I don't think picks should be given to the weaker teams, just forfeited. lol, then half the draft picks will be skipped? That's the dumbest thing ever... Guys with the 20th pick will actually have like the 10th pick, cuz some were skipped? sounds silly to me. If that what needs to happen then so be it. If that's that case then perhaps the cap penalties need to be harsher to ward against this kind of thing. I just really don't think weaker teams should benefit from cap penalties at all.
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Nov 21, 2006 19:47:30 GMT -5
Post by Dan on Nov 21, 2006 19:47:30 GMT -5
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Let them have the picks, why would you forfeit picks so in return the rich get richer. their has to be some balance in the league. this worked so well for BBS, why mess something up when its already working fine?
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Nov 21, 2006 19:58:42 GMT -5
Post by Spencer on Nov 21, 2006 19:58:42 GMT -5
You guys are just against it because you need freebies to be able to build a team. I dont know about anyone else but i like to do things and know that i did it without any help. I guess Spence feels you guys aren't good enough to not have em. Might as well have kept BBS if everything is basically the same. I dont get why you are so negative about this. To me its really never been a problem, and IMO youre kinda nit picking now. I can understand if you dont think every rule is perfect, but I dont see why all of a sudden this is a major issue for you. Youre input is very important, and I can see your perspective, but it isnt enough reason for me to change my mind. I like this rule, and its gonna stay.
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Nov 21, 2006 20:00:02 GMT -5
Post by KG on Nov 21, 2006 20:00:02 GMT -5
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Let them have the picks, why would you forfeit picks so in return the rich get richer. their has to be some balance in the league. this worked so well for BBS, why mess something up when its already working fine? You're the dumbest thing I've ever heard! . . . Ever.
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Nov 21, 2006 20:00:23 GMT -5
Post by duce on Nov 21, 2006 20:00:23 GMT -5
I do think though... rather than automatically giving the pick to the worst team that maybe the pick should go into a "lottery" of its own... and the bottom 5 teams have a chance. That way it's more random and a tanking team doesn't always reap too many gifts. Maybe you were doing that already though? I dunno..
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Nov 21, 2006 20:02:56 GMT -5
Post by Spencer on Nov 21, 2006 20:02:56 GMT -5
I do think though... rather than automatically giving the pick to the worst team that maybe the pick should go into a "lottery" of its own... and the bottom 5 teams have a chance. That way it's more random and a tanking team doesn't always reap too many gifts. Maybe you were doing that already though? I dunno.. This is a possibility.
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Nov 21, 2006 20:49:27 GMT -5
Post by Outlawz on Nov 21, 2006 20:49:27 GMT -5
The only reason im complaining is because i feel it's stupid. But hey if i dont like it i guess i should stay under 75 right? It's your league but im just in the opinion that things should never be given away.
I like Duce's idea though.
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Nov 21, 2006 20:51:17 GMT -5
Post by Spencer on Nov 21, 2006 20:51:17 GMT -5
Like I said earlier, Im open to hearing new ideas, but I like this set up. Duces idea is interesting and I will pursue it.
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Nov 21, 2006 21:32:01 GMT -5
Post by Dan on Nov 21, 2006 21:32:01 GMT -5
I do think though... rather than automatically giving the pick to the worst team that maybe the pick should go into a "lottery" of its own... and the bottom 5 teams have a chance. That way it's more random and a tanking team doesn't always reap too many gifts. Maybe you were doing that already though? I dunno.. This is a possibility. duce and his brilliant ideas.
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