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Oct 9, 2007 19:54:23 GMT -5
Post by aaronjh on Oct 9, 2007 19:54:23 GMT -5
I saw that coming from a mile away so when Krumpinksi called Louis Williams a joke.. I knew he was going to blow up eventually... I'm sorry but Lumley has done a terrible job with the Kings. The Kings should not be trying to contend for atleast another season or two... which is why I got the 2010 and 2011 picks. He's striving for mediocrity... getting what 5th at best 4th out West.. and being knocked out 1st round... I don't get it. I wish I had 3 full seasons with Sacramento. He's about to blow away your 40 wins, and traded for Tim Duncan. He is doing fine. Roy-DeShawn-Bogut-JO-TD...I dig it.
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Oct 9, 2007 19:55:08 GMT -5
Post by The X-Factor on Oct 9, 2007 19:55:08 GMT -5
and your an idiot James for calling that the "greatest" tc of all time.. the kid was 22 with B scouted Potential it's not out of this world... and it's not like he went up ridiculously in every category... hello LeBron James?
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Oct 9, 2007 19:56:34 GMT -5
Post by nova on Oct 9, 2007 19:56:34 GMT -5
Roy-DeShawn-Bogut-JO-TD is definitely going to be a contender...he just needs some depth.
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Oct 9, 2007 19:56:39 GMT -5
Post by aaronjh on Oct 9, 2007 19:56:39 GMT -5
and your an idiot James for calling that the "greatest" tc of all time.. the kid was 22 with B scouted Potential it's not out of this world... and it's not like he went up ridiculously in every category... hello LeBron James? If you had the Kings, and still had Lou, you know you'd be patting yourself on the back and excusing the LBJ trade because of Lou's TC.
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Oct 9, 2007 19:59:15 GMT -5
Post by The X-Factor on Oct 9, 2007 19:59:15 GMT -5
and your an idiot James for calling that the "greatest" tc of all time.. the kid was 22 with B scouted Potential it's not out of this world... and it's not like he went up ridiculously in every category... hello LeBron James? If you had the Kings, and still had Lou, you know you'd be patting yourself on the back and excusing the LBJ trade because of Lou's TC. What's your point?
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Oct 9, 2007 20:00:15 GMT -5
Post by The X-Factor on Oct 9, 2007 20:00:15 GMT -5
He's about to blow away your 40 wins, and traded for Tim Duncan. He is doing fine. Roy-DeShawn-Bogut-JO-TD...I dig it. Yeah Mark, 46 wins and a 1st round knock-out whew blew me right out the water!
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Oct 9, 2007 20:00:45 GMT -5
Post by The X-Factor on Oct 9, 2007 20:00:45 GMT -5
Roy-DeShawn-Bogut-JO-TD is definitely going to be a contender...he just needs some depth. Contender for playoffs, not a championship. He needs to deal off one of those bigs for a legit PG.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:01:13 GMT -5
Post by nova on Oct 9, 2007 20:01:13 GMT -5
Why? I'd play Roy at PG without a fucking doubt.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:01:59 GMT -5
Post by Mark on Oct 9, 2007 20:01:59 GMT -5
Roy-DeShawn-Bogut-JO-TD...I dig it. Yeah Mark, 46 wins and a 1st round knock-out whew blew me right out the water! This is a really good starting 5. No reason he can't win 50. The future you set him up with wasn't nearly as good as what you make it out to be. Not even close. So I like that he decided to deal for a superstar, and another star, and keep his one main piece. He's done a great job. If not a great job, a good job, far from the negative take you had on it.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:02:31 GMT -5
Post by nova on Oct 9, 2007 20:02:31 GMT -5
The East is going to be such a mess this year...with all those teams being locks for the playoffs, and then teams like Indiana & me trying to get into the playoffs.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:02:43 GMT -5
Post by The X-Factor on Oct 9, 2007 20:02:43 GMT -5
Yeah Mark, 46 wins and a 1st round knock-out whew blew me right out the water! This is a really good starting 5. No reason he can't win 50. The future you set him up with wasn't nearly as good as what you make it out to be. Not even close. So I like that he decided to deal for a superstar, and another star, and keep his one main piece. He's done a great job. If not a great job, a good job, far from the negative take you had on it. Talk to me at the end of the year, thanks.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:03:05 GMT -5
Post by The X-Factor on Oct 9, 2007 20:03:05 GMT -5
Why? I'd play Roy at PG without a fucking doubt. and who are you going to play at SF Randolph?
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Oct 9, 2007 20:03:24 GMT -5
Post by aaronjh on Oct 9, 2007 20:03:24 GMT -5
Yeah Mark, 46 wins and a 1st round knock-out whew blew me right out the water! This is a really good starting 5. No reason he can't win 50. The future you set him up with wasn't nearly as good as what you make it out to be. Not even close. So I like that he decided to deal for a superstar, and another star, and keep his one main piece. He's done a great job. If not a great job, a good job, far from the negative take you had on it. Yeah. Nothing about what he's doing says he's striving for mediocrity. Dealt for the best big in the sim, kept his best player, then added some major pieces in Bogut, JO
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Oct 9, 2007 20:04:14 GMT -5
Post by aaronjh on Oct 9, 2007 20:04:14 GMT -5
The East is going to be such a mess this year...with all those teams being locks for the playoffs, and then teams like Indiana & me trying to get into the playoffs. You have to be a little annoyed about that TC. Go get your big man!
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Oct 9, 2007 20:08:18 GMT -5
Post by cjmjones008 on Oct 9, 2007 20:08:18 GMT -5
beasley had a disappoint tc since he only went up in inside and boards
melo up in handles is nice but i would have rather had it in D or boards
collison up in outside handles defense gives makes him a great backup
biedrins went down in inside but up in defense which im not sure is good since i lost bibby and wont have as much offense
zabelin went up in inside handles defense and boards which is sweet
diogu up in defense
mata up in inside
balkman up in defense
morrison up in outside and handles
lawson up in outside
ricky davis went up in outside
i like my tc better now that i just went over it but i dont have a legit pg and beasley isnt a beast yet
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Oct 9, 2007 20:10:39 GMT -5
Post by nova on Oct 9, 2007 20:10:39 GMT -5
The East is going to be such a mess this year...with all those teams being locks for the playoffs, and then teams like Indiana & me trying to get into the playoffs. You have to be a little annoyed about that TC. Go get your big man! Why exactly? Arthur went up in inside scoring & rebounding, and while Ibaka didn't have a great TC, it's not as if he had a bad one.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:11:52 GMT -5
Post by aaronjh on Oct 9, 2007 20:11:52 GMT -5
You have to be a little annoyed about that TC. Go get your big man! Why exactly? Arthur went up in inside scoring & rebounding, and while Ibaka didn't have a great TC, it's not as if he had a bad one. Arthur's a weak 4 right now, and Ibaka's a bench player. Just doesn't look like you have the frontcourt to win.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:14:03 GMT -5
Post by nova on Oct 9, 2007 20:14:03 GMT -5
Why exactly? Arthur went up in inside scoring & rebounding, and while Ibaka didn't have a great TC, it's not as if he had a bad one. Arthur's a weak 4 right now, and Ibaka's a bench player. Just doesn't look like you have the frontcourt to win. Arthur's a weak 4? Uh, okay. Ibaka's a great shot-blocker so that's why he'll be starting, I really don't think it's bad to have a guy who will likely average 3.5bpg starting.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:15:31 GMT -5
Post by cjmjones008 on Oct 9, 2007 20:15:31 GMT -5
Darrell Arthurs ratings = Ike Diogus ratings
i hate thinking about diogu off bench but i may have to this year
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Oct 9, 2007 20:15:33 GMT -5
Post by aaronjh on Oct 9, 2007 20:15:33 GMT -5
Arthur's a weak 4 right now, and Ibaka's a bench player. Just doesn't look like you have the frontcourt to win. Arthur's a weak 4? Uh, okay. Ibaka's a great shot-blocker so that's why he'll be starting, I really don't think it's bad to have a guy who will likely average 3.5bpg starting. Am I wrong about Arthur? He won't be, but his ratings right now make him a nothing.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:16:37 GMT -5
Post by nova on Oct 9, 2007 20:16:37 GMT -5
Arthur's a weak 4? Uh, okay. Ibaka's a great shot-blocker so that's why he'll be starting, I really don't think it's bad to have a guy who will likely average 3.5bpg starting. Am I wrong about Arthur? He won't be, but his ratings right now make him a nothing. B+ inside, B+ defense, B rebounding make him a nothing?
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Oct 9, 2007 20:16:58 GMT -5
Post by James on Oct 9, 2007 20:16:58 GMT -5
and your an idiot James for calling that the "greatest" tc of all time.. the kid was 22 with B scouted Potential it's not out of this world... and it's not like he went up ridiculously in every category... hello LeBron James? Up inside, outside, handles and defense does go up their with the best. And LOL @ you saying Lums has done a bad job with Sac.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:18:22 GMT -5
Post by aaronjh on Oct 9, 2007 20:18:22 GMT -5
Am I wrong about Arthur? He won't be, but his ratings right now make him a nothing. B+ inside, B+ defense, B rebounding make him a nothing? It's mediocre, is it not? B+/B defense rebounding's very tough to justify, unless he's a big time shotblocker.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:19:32 GMT -5
Post by nova on Oct 9, 2007 20:19:32 GMT -5
I'm not saying he's a great starter, but he's far from nothing.
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Oct 9, 2007 20:20:14 GMT -5
Post by aaron2344 on Oct 9, 2007 20:20:14 GMT -5
Nothing bad in TC
Samuels - B, B-, B+ as a rook -- he'll get an upgrade in inside scoring this year Bynum is still nasty, with A potential Meka stayed the same, still going to put up his stats McGee is looking like a nice defensive/rebounding big - B/B- Elson - looks like a great backup, he'll get me 2 bpg off the bench and replace Theo S. Williams - A-/B- -- he'll get an upgrade in defense Thornton went up to B on defense...I can make his outside scoring go up to B+/B/B or attempt to make his D go up Stuckey is nasty --- B-/B+/B-/B+ Baron/Paul - nasty Chalmers - B-/B-/B- to B/B-/B+ -- great second round pickup
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