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Post by Spencer on Oct 4, 2007 15:24:31 GMT -5
Suddenly this is a huge problem, and I don't know why. I need this to be fixed, so were gonna do whatever wins in this poll.
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Post by Adelaide on Oct 4, 2007 15:33:16 GMT -5
Suddenly this is a huge problem, and I don't know why. I need this to be fixed, so were gonna do whatever wins in this poll. Why don't you just say I'm simming at blah blah blah time and if you don't have a DC in then it is being comp'd?
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 4, 2007 15:34:17 GMT -5
whats the difference between as is and posting without editing
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 4, 2007 15:36:10 GMT -5
Suddenly this is a huge problem, and I don't know why. I need this to be fixed, so were gonna do whatever wins in this poll. Why don't you just say I'm simming at blah blah blah time and if you don't have a DC in then it is being comp'd? Thats not the issue... the issue is some people like to PM DCs for strategic purposes, and some people like to wait on their opponent to see their DC.
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Post by aaron2344 on Oct 4, 2007 15:36:27 GMT -5
the two scenarios that i think can work are PMing the dc's, or lower seed (worst record if both seeds are the same) posts first. not really sure how you can enforce the person posting their lineup first since the lower seed might just wait until a few minutes before the sim, but i'm sure we can figure out a way.
pm is all luck, but i think it'll be much more interesting. gives the teams the ability to switch things up for the second sim. i know people's arguments about it isn't really lifelike and people should know the starting lineups, but it should still be a pretty cool feature. plus it'll stop the bullshit of editing and waiting on the other person to post their dcs.
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 4, 2007 15:37:54 GMT -5
I personally like PMing DCs because it's more realistic. I waited last night to see James' DC because I didn't know if he was going to run TD at the 4 and the 5, and after I posted my DC in response to his, he ended up editing his. The person who posts their DC first is at a disadvantage, so I don't blame him for editing it, but IMO he should have posted a new DC so that I could have realized it. In the end though it didn't matter since I'm up 2-1.
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 4, 2007 15:38:48 GMT -5
the two scenarios that i think can work are PMing the dc's, or lower seed (worst record if both seeds are the same) posts first. not really sure how you can enforce the person posting their lineup first since the lower seed might just wait until a few minutes before the sim, but i'm sure we can figure out a way. pm is all luck, but i think it'll be much more interesting. gives the teams the ability to switch things up for the second sim. i know people's arguments about it isn't really lifelike and people should know the starting lineups, but it should still be a pretty cool feature. plus it'll stop the bullshit of editing and waiting on the other person to post their dcs. I think you should show who is starting, and that is all. No positions, no strategy, or anything else.
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Post by aaron2344 on Oct 4, 2007 15:45:57 GMT -5
the two scenarios that i think can work are PMing the dc's, or lower seed (worst record if both seeds are the same) posts first. not really sure how you can enforce the person posting their lineup first since the lower seed might just wait until a few minutes before the sim, but i'm sure we can figure out a way. pm is all luck, but i think it'll be much more interesting. gives the teams the ability to switch things up for the second sim. i know people's arguments about it isn't really lifelike and people should know the starting lineups, but it should still be a pretty cool feature. plus it'll stop the bullshit of editing and waiting on the other person to post their dcs. I think you should show who is starting, and that is all. No positions, no strategy, or anything else. definitely. just put five guys who are playing and that's it. pm the rest to spence.
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Post by duce on Oct 4, 2007 16:04:11 GMT -5
well, that is pretty much the view i've had on it all along, completely agree. show your starting 5 and the rest is whatever.
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 4, 2007 16:07:22 GMT -5
well none of these three options seems to fit what the three of us want soooo...
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Post by duce on Oct 4, 2007 16:08:35 GMT -5
i don't think you should be able to edit.
how about this:
Team A(higher seed) posts line-up. Team B(lower seed) posts line-up. Team A makes starting line-up adjustments. Team B can't change after this.
Team A can also post potential adjustments in the event that Team B does something anticipated by team A, incase Team A is not around at the last second.
Or of course... Team B can post first and then Team A and that's it.
Am I making sense with that? Any flaws?
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Post by garf2000 on Oct 4, 2007 16:17:56 GMT -5
i think its too complicated and will lead to longer wait times to post dcs... i think we should PM spence our full DC and disclose who our starters are without saying what positions.
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Post by nova on Oct 4, 2007 16:23:36 GMT -5
I agree with just showing starting 5 & doing the strategies & such over PM.
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Post by The X-Factor on Oct 4, 2007 16:39:26 GMT -5
I like the idea of PMing DCs but only if that DC is posted after said sim.
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Post by Mark on Oct 4, 2007 16:57:44 GMT -5
i don't think you should be able to edit. how about this: Team A(higher seed) posts line-up. Team B(lower seed) posts line-up. Team A makes starting line-up adjustments. Team B can't change after this. Team A can also post potential adjustments in the event that Team B does something anticipated by team A, incase Team A is not around at the last second. Or of course... Team B can post first and then Team A and that's it. Am I making sense with that? Any flaws? Not necessary. Also, I don't think lower seeds need to be put at a larger disadvantage than they're already at by being the weaker team. Why do we want to limit parity? I agree with Reilly and Hernando, PM the DC, and post the starting 5.
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Post by Outlawz on Oct 4, 2007 17:40:55 GMT -5
As is. Why does everything in BBS need to be overcomplicated? If i was spence i would just ignore all this and continue to do shit how it always is and has been. PMin dc's is a crapshoot and has no strategy behind it other than hoping that your strategy is correct. Either way i dont really care but i voted as is
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Post by nybombers3 on Oct 4, 2007 17:50:59 GMT -5
Where is option "Post a DC and stfu"?
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Post by Spencer on Oct 4, 2007 18:18:46 GMT -5
Im just sick of dealing with people trying to make it more difficult. Makes me just want to sim the playoffs all at once.
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Post by duce on Oct 4, 2007 18:34:39 GMT -5
i don't think you should be able to edit. how about this: Team A(higher seed) posts line-up. Team B(lower seed) posts line-up. Team A makes starting line-up adjustments. Team B can't change after this. Team A can also post potential adjustments in the event that Team B does something anticipated by team A, incase Team A is not around at the last second. Or of course... Team B can post first and then Team A and that's it. Am I making sense with that? Any flaws? Not necessary. Also, I don't think lower seeds need to be put at a larger disadvantage than they're already at by being the weaker team. Why do we want to limit parity? I agree with Reilly and Hernando, PM the DC, and post the starting 5. Just throwing that out there. Maybe it really is not necessary. However I disagree that the lower seed gets screwed in this idea. I don't think it limits parity at all. The higher seed earns something by winning more, that's all there is to it. Even if I'm wrong, the idea definitely did not have that intent behind it.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 4, 2007 18:38:17 GMT -5
Its a thoughtful idea, but it would take a week to get playoffs done. In the current scenario it takes 4 days at most, which is a long time.
Playoffs is a activity killer. 1/2 of the league doesn't care. And another 1/3 doesnt care after the first day. Any system needs to be quick and easy.
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Post by duce on Oct 4, 2007 18:49:54 GMT -5
I guess I'm impartial to the given options.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 4, 2007 18:52:44 GMT -5
I guess I'm impartial to the given options. To me your plan would take too long. Do you have any alternate ideas.
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Post by Outlawz on Oct 4, 2007 18:55:02 GMT -5
Since when is dc's a problem? lol.. Theres a schedule to when your going to sim. You either get your shit in or you dont. Simple.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 4, 2007 18:58:57 GMT -5
Since when is dc's a problem? lol.. Theres a schedule to when your going to sim. You either get your shit in or you dont. Simple. its a problem when I get some PMd, or some posted and then edited. its just annoying.
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Post by duce on Oct 4, 2007 18:59:09 GMT -5
I guess I'm impartial to the given options. To me your plan would take too long. Do you have any alternate ideas. no not really, it was really the only option that wasn't in the poll that i could think of. the choices in the poll seem to be the best ways. i just don't know which is best overall. it seems PMing is the only way to avoid the whole "no you go, no YOU go" problem we've come across.
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