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Post by Skillz on Nov 11, 2007 19:19:28 GMT -5
I think it's either Skillz, Nova, AIG, or Galo. not me
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Post by nova on Nov 11, 2007 19:39:59 GMT -5
I think it's either Skillz, Nova, AIG, or Galo. Haha, funny. Krup, I also find it amusing that it seems like your trying to blackball people into not dealing with Outlawz basically by saying whoever does, will be hated forever. Fact is, as long as the other GM is getting a good deal, no one should have an issue with anyone making a deal with Outlawz. It's their prerogative as a GM, it's not your job to tell anyone what to do. Now, if they make a bad deal, then it's fine to criticize them, but to basically say whoever deals for his players will be hated, and calling the people who want his players stupid is taking it too far IMO, and is just unnecessary. There are plenty of teams who could use players like Gay and Foye, and it's no one's job to tell them not to trade for them just because it might help Outlawz as well. Fact is, as long as it's a good deal, they shouldn't be criticized for it.
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Post by KruPaxson on Nov 11, 2007 19:47:59 GMT -5
I think it's either Skillz, Nova, AIG, or Galo. Haha, funny. Krup, I also find it amusing that it seems like your trying to blackball people into not dealing with Outlawz basically by saying whoever does, will be hated forever. Please show me where I said this
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 11, 2007 19:50:41 GMT -5
Haha, funny. Krup, I also find it amusing that it seems like your trying to blackball people into not dealing with Outlawz basically by saying whoever does, will be hated forever. Please show me where I said this Blackball? What?
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Post by nova on Nov 11, 2007 19:50:49 GMT -5
Haha, funny. Krup, I also find it amusing that it seems like your trying to blackball people into not dealing with Outlawz basically by saying whoever does, will be hated forever. Please show me where I said this Your entire article is basically devaluing Foye & Gay, and also Roy to an extent, and the last line says "Outlawz may be bigger than the hardcap but who are we to help him find out if he's not." Explain how that's not trying to convince people not to deal for his players?
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 11, 2007 19:51:32 GMT -5
and we have a winner.
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Post by nova on Nov 11, 2007 19:55:06 GMT -5
Are you blind and stupid, or just stupid? So just because I disagree with what krup's saying and trying to do, I'm the one whose going to acquire them? If I had ANY need for either of them, I would try and get one of them, but considering I don't need either, and I wouldn't deal either of my bigs(which is what he's after), why on earth would it be me?
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Post by KruPaxson on Nov 11, 2007 19:58:26 GMT -5
I never said anyone would be hated for it which is what you said. See I read what you say while you interpret what I say.
Outlawz could potentially go over the hard cap and not be as harshly affected by it like Bender was. Outlawz losing 1 player would still be a top 5 team and his next 2 yrs of picks wouldn't be that great anyways, nor would any of his players be free agents. I would think Spence would get rid of Gay or Foye which isn't exactly the worst thing in the world because those contracts suck. Therefore in my opinion he might be bigger than the hardcap. If no one was to make a trade with him we could see how that scenario could play out. Thats the meaning of that sentence.
Did I say don't trade with Outlawz? NO
Did I say you'd be hated if you traded with him? NO
Don't spew off lies and learn how to read. You are the SATs dream for fuckups by reading half a sentence and assuming the meaning of the rest.
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Post by Adelaide on Nov 11, 2007 19:59:15 GMT -5
Are you blind and stupid, or just stupid? So just because I disagree with what krup's saying and trying to do, I'm the one whose going to acquire them? If I had ANY need for either of them, I would try and get one of them, but considering I don't need either, and I wouldn't deal either of my bigs(which is what he's after), why on earth would it be me? Seriously....
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Post by Adelaide on Nov 11, 2007 20:00:21 GMT -5
Fucking nova edited his shit when I was quoting him.
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 11, 2007 20:01:35 GMT -5
I never said anyone would be hated for it which is what you said. See I read what you say while you interpret what I say. Outlawz could potentially go over the hard cap and not be as harshly affected by it like Bender was. Outlawz losing 1 player would still be a top 5 team and his next 2 yrs of picks wouldn't be that great anyways, nor would any of his players be free agents. I would think Spence would get rid of Gay or Foye which isn't exactly the worst thing in the world because those contracts suck. Therefore in my opinion he might be bigger than the hardcap. If no one was to make a trade with him we could see how that scenario could play out. Thats the meaning of that sentence. Did I say don't trade with Outlawz? NO Did I say you'd be hated if you traded with him? NO Don't spew off lies and learn how to read. You are the SATs dream for fuckups by reading half a sentence and assuming the meaning of the rest. Does your school even check SAT scores?
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Post by KruPaxson on Nov 11, 2007 20:02:43 GMT -5
I never said anyone would be hated for it which is what you said. See I read what you say while you interpret what I say. Outlawz could potentially go over the hard cap and not be as harshly affected by it like Bender was. Outlawz losing 1 player would still be a top 5 team and his next 2 yrs of picks wouldn't be that great anyways, nor would any of his players be free agents. I would think Spence would get rid of Gay or Foye which isn't exactly the worst thing in the world because those contracts suck. Therefore in my opinion he might be bigger than the hardcap. If no one was to make a trade with him we could see how that scenario could play out. Thats the meaning of that sentence. Did I say don't trade with Outlawz? NO Did I say you'd be hated if you traded with him? NO Don't spew off lies and learn how to read. You are the SATs dream for fuckups by reading half a sentence and assuming the meaning of the rest. Does your school even check SAT scores? I'd expect better from you this is weak
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 11, 2007 20:03:45 GMT -5
Does your school even check SAT scores? I'd expect better from you this is weak Bullshit. It was good, and you don't just get to deem it weak. "Does your school even have a basketball team?"
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Post by nova on Nov 11, 2007 20:12:15 GMT -5
I never said anyone would be hated for it which is what you said. See I read what you say while you interpret what I say. Outlawz could potentially go over the hard cap and not be as harshly affected by it like Bender was. Outlawz losing 1 player would still be a top 5 team and his next 2 yrs of picks wouldn't be that great anyways, nor would any of his players be free agents. I would think Spence would get rid of Gay or Foye which isn't exactly the worst thing in the world because those contracts suck. Therefore in my opinion he might be bigger than the hardcap. If no one was to make a trade with him we could see how that scenario could play out. Thats the meaning of that sentence. Did I say don't trade with Outlawz? NO Did I say you'd be hated if you traded with him? NO Don't spew off lies and learn how to read. You are the SATs dream for fuckups by reading half a sentence and assuming the meaning of the rest. I thought I recalled you saying it in either the Yao thread, the article, or in the "Knicks over the Hardcap" thread, but I don't see it now, so it may have been someone else or I was wrong. My mistake there. The title of your article is Trading with the Knicks : Outlawed In it, you devalue Foye & Gay, and whether it's how you meant it or not, saying "who are we to help him find out" comes off as trying to get people not to deal with him, at least to me. Your flooding his trade thread with comments as well...calling the person who wants Gay & Foye stupid and a moron. Why? They are two of the best young swingmen in the league. That comes off as trying to convince people not to deal for them... Whether it's your intention or not, your posts come off as if you, and most of the league will rip anyone who deals with Outlawz.
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Post by KruPaxson on Nov 11, 2007 20:21:56 GMT -5
I'd expect better from you this is weak Bullshit. It was good, and you don't just get to deem it weak. "Does your school even have a basketball team?" Ok in the context of my burn it was a good burn
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Post by KruPaxson on Nov 11, 2007 20:27:03 GMT -5
I never said anyone would be hated for it which is what you said. See I read what you say while you interpret what I say. Outlawz could potentially go over the hard cap and not be as harshly affected by it like Bender was. Outlawz losing 1 player would still be a top 5 team and his next 2 yrs of picks wouldn't be that great anyways, nor would any of his players be free agents. I would think Spence would get rid of Gay or Foye which isn't exactly the worst thing in the world because those contracts suck. Therefore in my opinion he might be bigger than the hardcap. If no one was to make a trade with him we could see how that scenario could play out. Thats the meaning of that sentence. Did I say don't trade with Outlawz? NO Did I say you'd be hated if you traded with him? NO Don't spew off lies and learn how to read. You are the SATs dream for fuckups by reading half a sentence and assuming the meaning of the rest. I thought I recalled you saying it in either the Yao thread, the article, or in the "Knicks over the Hardcap" thread, but I don't see it now, so it may have been someone else or I was wrong. My mistake there. The title of your article is Trading with the Knicks : Outlawed In it, you devalue Foye & Gay, and whether it's how you meant it or not, saying "who are we to help him find out" comes off as trying to get people not to deal with him, at least to me. Your flooding his trade thread with comments as well...calling the person who wants Gay & Foye stupid and a moron. Why? They are two of the best young swingmen in the league. That comes off as trying to convince people not to deal for them... Whether it's your intention or not, your posts come off as if you, and most of the league will rip anyone who deals with Outlawz. I don't devalue them I just make mention of their contracts and what they've done over their career. What conclusion you draw up from that is your opinion. Taking on 225 Million dollars worth of contracts in one trade is potentially very stupid because this locks your team for the next 6 seasons so prepare yourself to sink or swim with those two. Sorry I just don't look at the immediate impact when I make trades. Best two swingmen in the league? Come on neither has been a consistent starter for their careers and Gay had a bad TC which throws up red flags all over the place.
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Post by nova on Nov 11, 2007 20:37:20 GMT -5
I thought I recalled you saying it in either the Yao thread, the article, or in the "Knicks over the Hardcap" thread, but I don't see it now, so it may have been someone else or I was wrong. My mistake there. The title of your article is Trading with the Knicks : Outlawed In it, you devalue Foye & Gay, and whether it's how you meant it or not, saying "who are we to help him find out" comes off as trying to get people not to deal with him, at least to me. Your flooding his trade thread with comments as well...calling the person who wants Gay & Foye stupid and a moron. Why? They are two of the best young swingmen in the league. That comes off as trying to convince people not to deal for them... Whether it's your intention or not, your posts come off as if you, and most of the league will rip anyone who deals with Outlawz. I don't devalue them I just make mention of their contracts and what they've done over their career. What conclusion you draw up from that is your opinion. Taking on 225 Million dollars worth of contracts in one trade is potentially very stupid because this locks your team for the next 6 seasons so prepare yourself to sink or swim with those two. Sorry I just don't look at the immediate impact when I make trades. Best two swingmen in the league? Come on neither has been a consistent starter for their careers and Gay had a bad TC which throws up red flags all over the place. For someone who criticizes me for apparently not reading people's posts, you seem to be doing the same thing. I never said they were the best two swingmen. I said they were two of the best YOUNG swingmen, which is true. I can understand having concerns about Gay's TC, but considering he's still only 23 and looking at how many other quality young swingmen NY has, I wouldn't not want him just because he had a sub-par TC. Plenty of players have a bad TC then follow it up with a good one. As for you saying neither has been a consistent starter, the reasoning for that is pretty clear, lol. Neither were ready to start the first 3 years of their careers, and last year, he was so deep that he couldn't start both, so he shifted them in & out of the lineup. Foye is definitely worth the max, Gay is somewhat questionable, but I still think he's a very nice young SF.
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 11, 2007 20:41:17 GMT -5
Could be the worst argument ever in BBS. Definitely the most uninteresting.
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Post by nybombers3 on Nov 11, 2007 20:41:39 GMT -5
When did the BBS hire Scott?
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Post by Adelaide on Nov 11, 2007 20:43:12 GMT -5
Could be the worst argument ever in BBS. Definitely the most uninteresting. I concur.
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 11, 2007 21:13:21 GMT -5
lmao
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Post by Dan on Nov 11, 2007 21:48:53 GMT -5
interesting discussion here
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Post by Mark on Nov 11, 2007 21:54:14 GMT -5
Could be the worst argument ever in BBS. Definitely the most uninteresting. Hahahahaha I was skimming nova's posts to get to Dave's posts, and then stopped reading both and got to this.
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Post by Outlawz on Nov 11, 2007 22:20:14 GMT -5
lmao.. jesus christ.. ya wanna know what's funny? Krup pmed me about dealing for ALL my shitty swingmen trying to get them for cheap because he knows first hand how bad they are.. Anybody that listens to anything that krup says should go commit suicide. All his statements are biased, and stated as if it was fact when in fact it's not. This guy thinks he knows everything about fbb but yet he didn't know enough not to get upset a couple of times in the early rounds of the playoffs. He got dirk for cheap and all of a sudden he think he's hott shit. Made a couple of good draft picks in brand and manu. Good at drafting but he aint do shit in bbs1 and always looked at him like another chris in that league. Just another dude who thinks they know it all but are just more talk than walk.
I will never go over the cap. Reilly is more subliminal about his comments but he's actually better than me so i respect him but this is war now!! lol.. Dont even think about putting up a trade block lol. It's a new challenge. Having to rid of a tick on my sim nut. I hope i make this deal go through. Im not even a top 5 team now. Detroit is definitely coming out of the east.
Im just glad guys like greg and nova are not afraid to not follow the crowd and just speak their minds even if they get shit for it.
Im not going to post anything else about this. Krup do what u do. No more responses from me on the matter
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Post by Adelaide on Nov 11, 2007 22:22:12 GMT -5
lmao.. jesus christ.. ya wanna know what's funny? Krup pmed me about dealing for ALL my shitty swingmen trying to get them for cheap because he knows first hand how bad they are.. Anybody that listens to anything that krup says should go commit suicide. All his statements are biased, and stated as if it was fact when in fact it's not. This guy thinks he knows everything about fbb but yet he didn't know enough not to get upset a couple of times in the early rounds of the playoffs. He got dirk for cheap and all of a sudden he think he's hott shit. Made a couple of good draft picks in brand and manu. Good at drafting but he aint do shit in bbs1 and always looked at him like another chris in that league. Just another dude who thinks they know it all but are just more talk than walk. I will never go over the cap. Reilly is more subliminal about his comments but he's actually better than me so i respect him but this is war now!! lol.. Dont even think about putting up a trade block lol. It's a new challenge. Having to rid of a tick on my sim nut. I hope i make this deal go through. Im not even a top 5 team now. Detroit is definitely coming out of the east. Im just glad guys like greg and nova are not afraid to not follow the crowd and just speak their minds even if they get shit for it. Im not going to post anything else about this. Krup do what u do. No more responses from me on the matter I am on Outlawz team.
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