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Post by nova on Nov 7, 2007 23:06:10 GMT -5
I can't believe how much some of you are overreacting, it's not nearly as bad as your making it out to be. Could bizzle have gotten more? Sure, but I think it's pretty solid. You may not think so Aaron, but IMO, unless you make some major improvements in this season/offseason, that is a lotto pick, and a possible top 5 pick. K, by that logic, it would have to be top five this season, considering the amount of potential, talent and expirings I have. I very well think your pick this year could be top 5, aside from Redd, and to an extent Stevenson, you really don't have much of anything in terms of talent that can produce this year.
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Post by KG on Nov 7, 2007 23:06:25 GMT -5
Sure, why not. There should be a anal banana free soon.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 7, 2007 23:06:41 GMT -5
the trade is brutal... it obviously helps bizzle tank and helpsmake you guys a contender. however, its a classic example of not putting up a block when dealing valuable players. if lumley made this deal after his most recent trades, im convinced he would be fired. but it makes sense for both teams, however lopsided it is. Bizzle is a better GM then Lums.
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 7, 2007 23:06:44 GMT -5
I love how I completely posted a trade, deleted it, and everyone is to busy complaining about a trade that bizzle hasn't confirmed yet, bitches.
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Post by Mark on Nov 7, 2007 23:07:01 GMT -5
If everyone said this sucked for Bizzle, I wouldn't allow it to go through, If the majority of people thin a deal should be vetoed, Ill veto. I just don't see this being worthy. Mark, lets talk about Baron Davis. I tried to get him from Reilly yesterday because I honestly think a Baron-to-me trade thread would get 500 posts.
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Post by aaron2344 on Nov 7, 2007 23:07:02 GMT -5
I said the trade sucks....VC puts up 20, Jamison puts up 18 last year for a first that is all over the place according to GMs and an expiring. I don't see how that's a good trade. I'm glad Basone has a good team in place, plus I never like vetoing trades. If Spence or Basone was able to get this deal, by all means it should go through, but Bizzle gets raped badly. If I'm one of the few to see it, so be it, but this isn't good.
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Post by KG on Nov 7, 2007 23:07:07 GMT -5
Someone needs to pull the banana out of their butt. Or put it back in. Good pick-up.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 7, 2007 23:07:33 GMT -5
K, by that logic, it would have to be top five this season, considering the amount of potential, talent and expirings I have. I very well think your pick this year could be top 5, aside from Redd, and to an extent Stevenson, you really don't have much of anything in terms of talent that can produce this year. I also gave Bizzle 3 RCS! And I promised to make sure all of Orlandos players have 0 real potential. So ya, its nice for Bizzle.
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Post by KG on Nov 7, 2007 23:07:34 GMT -5
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Post by nybombers3 on Nov 7, 2007 23:07:43 GMT -5
I love how I completely posted a trade, deleted it, and everyone is to busy complaining about a trade that bizzle hasn't confirmed yet, bitches. Why'd you delete it anyways? It was an amazing deal for you.
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 7, 2007 23:08:31 GMT -5
i'm just trying to get some attention, haha
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Post by KG on Nov 7, 2007 23:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by Spencer on Nov 7, 2007 23:08:50 GMT -5
I said the trade sucks....VC puts up 20, Jamison puts up 18 last year for a first that is all over the place according to GMs and an expiring. I don't see how that's a good trade. I'm glad Basone has a good team in place, plus I never like vetoing trades. If Spence or Basone was able to get this deal, by all means it should go through, but Bizzle gets raped badly. If I'm one of the few to see it, so be it, but this isn't good. Aaron, Aaron and Garf hate it. Others have said its bad. Others have said its decent. I think its a good deal for Portland, thats why I offered it. But I think Bizzle gets what he wants. A 1st. RCs More losses.
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Post by garf2000 on Nov 7, 2007 23:08:55 GMT -5
the trade is brutal... it obviously helps bizzle tank and helpsmake you guys a contender. however, its a classic example of not putting up a block when dealing valuable players. if lumley made this deal after his most recent trades, im convinced he would be fired. but it makes sense for both teams, however lopsided it is. Bizzle is a better GM then Lums. regardless, a bad trade is a bad trade no matter who makes it, no?
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Post by aigatdula on Nov 7, 2007 23:09:36 GMT -5
great deal for Bizzle then ;D I very well think your pick this year could be top 5, aside from Redd, and to an extent Stevenson, you really don't have much of anything in terms of talent that can produce this year. I also gave Bizzle 3 RCS! And I promised to make sure all of Orlandos players have 0 real potential. So ya, its nice for Bizzle.
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Post by garf2000 on Nov 7, 2007 23:09:43 GMT -5
I think the trade makes sense for both teams, but had Bizzle spent an extra 20 mins to send some PMs out, put up a block i'm 100% sure he could have gotten more.
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Post by aaronjh on Nov 7, 2007 23:09:44 GMT -5
Don't fucking tell me what my view is. This has nothing to do with my first. Imagine this was a first in the 12-15 range, any first in the 12-15, if you think my team will be there. Is this actually a deal you'll approve? I was furious about this deal because it reflects the fact that Bizzle doesn't give a shit, and as commish, you shouldn't exploiting that. Couldn't pertain any less to anything involving me. This doesn't involve me, but seriously, get off your fucking high horse. Bizzle is REBUILDING, and frankly, your team sucks right now and you don't have your own 1st the next 2 years, so that pick could be golden. Your counting on FA to make yourself a playoff team again. The chances of that happening in one offseason are slim, so quite frankly, I understand the deal from bizzle's perspective. You change your direction every two weeks, so getting your pick next season is a pretty good idea IMO. I change my direction every two weeks? I won a ring and was screwed because of the hard cap, so I rebuilt. I change my direction every two weeks? Come to grips with the fact that the way you've GM'd your team makes you the laughingstock of the fucking league. You are pathetic. I'm not the one on the high horse. I'm the one who gives a shit about the league. If you want to argue about my team, fine. The trade's not offensive to me. I know I have two of the best young PGs and SFs in the league, I know I have a lot of very good talent around them, and I know how to handle FA. Some of us don't go around throwing max deals at Nene and Ariza. Some of us can have confidence in our team's and actually get shit done without dealing in circles. Makes my night that you said I change my direction every two weeks when it's been four seasons for you and you can't top 39 wins. Think of how pathetic that is and then go attack my team.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 7, 2007 23:10:09 GMT -5
Bizzle is a better GM then Lums. regardless, a bad trade is a bad trade no matter who makes it, no? I dont think its a "bad trade". I think he mightve gotten slightly more, but I really like the ORL pick. It has value, and many teams asked for it. West and Jamison arent that far in value. 3 RCs are pretty nice. Idk, it just isnt that bad.
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Post by aaron2344 on Nov 7, 2007 23:10:20 GMT -5
I said the trade sucks....VC puts up 20, Jamison puts up 18 last year for a first that is all over the place according to GMs and an expiring. I don't see how that's a good trade. I'm glad Basone has a good team in place, plus I never like vetoing trades. If Spence or Basone was able to get this deal, by all means it should go through, but Bizzle gets raped badly. If I'm one of the few to see it, so be it, but this isn't good. Aaron, Aaron and Garf hate it. Others have said its bad. Others have said its decent. I think its a good deal for Portland, thats why I offered it. But I think Bizzle gets what he wants. A 1st. RCs More losses. Well then Haberman's point is dead on. If that's all Bizzle wanted for two very good players, why is he a GM?
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Post by Spencer on Nov 7, 2007 23:10:59 GMT -5
I wish I had DCs in, I might sim.
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Post by Dan on Nov 7, 2007 23:11:01 GMT -5
OH MY GOD CAN I JUST HAVE A WINNING SEASON
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Post by nybombers3 on Nov 7, 2007 23:11:13 GMT -5
OH MY GOD CAN I JUST HAVE A WINNING SEASON No.
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Post by aigatdula on Nov 7, 2007 23:11:26 GMT -5
i think the issue here is that Bizzle never put up a block for those two stating they were available, in that way he could have gotten more...
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Post by The X-Factor on Nov 7, 2007 23:12:02 GMT -5
Danilo Gallinari needs some sugar.
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Post by aaron2344 on Nov 7, 2007 23:12:13 GMT -5
i think the issue here is that Bizzle never put up a block for those two stating they were available, in that way he could have gotten more... thanks for stating what was said on page one
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