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Post by The X-Factor on Jan 18, 2007 14:05:50 GMT -5
Im tired of you letting things slide with other people spence and not letting me get away with anything that is flat out NOT against the rules. I didnt want Wahad because i didnt want to cut anyone for him, then without me confirming or asking me you cut Sundov who i wanted to keep. Im not going back on the trade but its his fault not mine that the deal didnt work i think im entitled to choose the player i want because i can. Its fucking b.s. people always deny or accept pieces to make a deal work, you putting that trade through just confirms you dont run things the same with everyone
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Post by Mark on Jan 18, 2007 14:37:25 GMT -5
Yawn. Not a big deal.
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Post by garf2000 on Jan 18, 2007 14:49:20 GMT -5
sundov might be one of the worst players in the league. he's gotten 0 minutes for you so far. i feel like just because people said this was a good deal for andy, you want to get out of it.
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Post by The X-Factor on Jan 18, 2007 14:55:03 GMT -5
whether or not be the case i'm entitled to accept or deny the trade he proposed it. i dnt care if two people think he got a better deal you should know that what i was being offered doesnt come close to the value i got for dirk. my point was that spence lets others get away with shit while others cant
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Post by Dan on Jan 18, 2007 15:32:09 GMT -5
the deal is done, you accepted it, and the case is you just realized you got the bad end of the deal. well shit happens man, you make a mistake, now you have to deal with it. the trade should go through.
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Post by Spencer on Jan 18, 2007 16:00:37 GMT -5
I cut Sundov because not only does he suck, but also you dont have Birds with him. I cut players and add players to make trades work all the time. I often process trades that arent re confirmed. Youre upset because the deal just isnt that great for you and you are having second thoughts. That isnt my fault. Thats your fault.
Also, ive been a huge proponent of keeping you in the league even though at certain points yur activity and desire to b here has waned. During the middle of the old BBS many people constantly complained about your activity, and your attitude, but I always stuck by you. Shit, I even held your team while you went on vacation when you werent sure you wanted to come back. Dont give me some BS about how i treat you unfairly. You need to grow up and realize youbrought this situation on yourself, and although you may want to point blame at someone, you cant justify it.
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Post by Vernon on Jan 18, 2007 16:02:27 GMT -5
Everyone makes mistakes but Marion will be a great player one day and maybe not as good as Dirk but a player you can build around and you got 3 first round picks as well.
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Post by aaronjh on Jan 18, 2007 16:17:45 GMT -5
Uh, Chris, a similar thing happened to me recently, and it wasn't bullshit, and I didn't take it personally because I'm not a head case. Get over yourself.
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Post by Spencer on Jan 18, 2007 16:22:49 GMT -5
Uh, Chris, a similar thing happened to me recently, and it wasn't bullshit, and I didn't take it personally because I'm not a head case. Get over yourself. Basically the same thing happaned. The only difference was that Aaron was stuck with a long contract. You got expiring. I even offered to fix Aarons because of the length of the contract he got(Glover). When the contract is an expiring contract I dont see why it would be a hinderance to any deal. As for Sundov, its another case of you not knowing the rules. You traded a 1st round pick for Boykins last year when he didnt have birds. You used a RC on Sundov although he has no Birds, and you have Stevenson available to upgrade? The Team overview? It was clearly stated when Aaron Reilly took ove rthe collection of Reward Points that the only way to get an end of the season upgrade was to do an ARTICLE. Not an overview. So why are you surprised when you do an Overview and it doesnt count? Once again, these are mistakes you are making. This is you not following the rules. No one is to blame but you.
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Post by The X-Factor on Jan 18, 2007 16:47:33 GMT -5
Uh, Chris, a similar thing happened to me recently, and it wasn't bullshit, and I didn't take it personally because I'm not a head case. Get over yourself. Yeah, it's all about me, right. Right, I realized I basically got raped with this deal when I probably could have gotten a better deal like Fortson and two picks. Or like 5 1sts for Dirk, man I'm an idiot. Marion probably won't pan out, and those 3 1sts are probably going to be worthless... please. I didn't propose the deal, he did. It didn't work, so I wanted to take advantage of it. Yes, I'm admitting that I want to take advantage. It's not against the rules that I wouldn't accept Wahad, it's simple as that. With that being said Sundov is 20, and there's something called RPs. He could easily be what Wang Zhi-Zhi was to me in the old BBS. A guy coming off the bench getting 2-3BPG. Wahad is useless to me, and I don't care what anyone says, a worse player. What's more childish? Complaining about something legit? Or bringing up a time long ago that has no relevance now? Unless I'm mistaken, I have been one of the most active guys in the new BBS. My attitude? The only people that don't "like" me is Aaron, Pig, Mark and their little crew. Frankly, I don't like them either, they aren't even remotely funny and for some reason think they know it all and attack me whenever they can. I don't start anything with them, ever, it's simple as that. I don't care for them, but hell, I still propose trades to them and likewise. I really don't care if anyone doesn't like my attitude, but I know for a fact I'm not the worse. I appreciate you sticking by me Spence, because hey, you know I'm one of the most active GMs and maybe not the best... but I can take a bad team and make it a playoff team. I feel like I've been getting gipped as of late, that's all. I honestly think I got the better of the deal. Is his team alot better now? Sure, it is. Dirk is an All-1st and All-Defensive team player. That's also cause I RCed the shit out of him and I made him the player he is now. I can do the same with Marion. Those 3 1sts are just the icing on the cake... call it a bad trade or not, but NO ONE was offering me a player the caliber of Marion for Dirk, NOBODY. I needed a change, a defensive change, Marion is a much better defender and rebounder. Simple as that, so to those that are saying I changed my mind because 2 or 3 people said I got the worst end of the deal, are retarded. Change was needed.. I needed picks got them... I needed a player that could substitute Dirk, I got that in Marion, now you get over yourselves..
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Post by The X-Factor on Jan 18, 2007 16:53:01 GMT -5
Uh, Chris, a similar thing happened to me recently, and it wasn't bullshit, and I didn't take it personally because I'm not a head case. Get over yourself. Basically the same thing happaned. The only difference was that Aaron was stuck with a long contract. You got expiring. I even offered to fix Aarons because of the length of the contract he got(Glover). When the contract is an expiring contract I dont see why it would be a hinderance to any deal. As for Sundov, its another case of you not knowing the rules. You traded a 1st round pick for Boykins last year when he didnt have birds. You used a RC on Sundov although he has no Birds, and you have Stevenson available to upgrade? The Team overview? It was clearly stated when Aaron Reilly took ove rthe collection of Reward Points that the only way to get an end of the season upgrade was to do an ARTICLE. Not an overview. So why are you surprised when you do an Overview and it doesnt count? Once again, these are mistakes you are making. This is you not following the rules. No one is to blame but you. I do it knowing full well of the risk... but that's a risk I would much rather take with Sundov than with Wahad. A risk I took with Boykins. I knew the risk.. but hey look at what Boykins is now, imagine it panned out and he decided to re-sign or I signed him as a FA? It's risks I take, don't tell me I don't "know the rules." What pissed me off about the Team Overview/Article thing is for one... unless people keep track of their post counts, there's no telling how many you need until 200. I had 191 posts + 5 points for making playoffs. Had I known all I needed was 4 more posts to make 200 points, I would have done it, and made those posts RELEVANT. What was the big deal to accept Team Overview? Why waste my time writing an article that will only count for 2 RPs? That is pointless and makes no sense. It was 4 fricking posts to 200.
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Post by aaronjh on Jan 18, 2007 16:59:39 GMT -5
Uh, Chris, a similar thing happened to me recently, and it wasn't bullshit, and I didn't take it personally because I'm not a head case. Get over yourself. Yeah, it's all about me, right. Right, I realized I basically got raped with this deal when I probably could have gotten a better deal like Fortson and two picks. Or like 5 1sts for Dirk, man I'm an idiot. Marion probably won't pan out, and those 3 1sts are probably going to be worthless... please. I didn't propose the deal, he did. It didn't work, so I wanted to take advantage of it. Yes, I'm admitting that I want to take advantage. It's not against the rules that I wouldn't accept Wahad, it's simple as that. With that being said Sundov is 20, and there's something called RPs. He could easily be what Wang Zhi-Zhi was to me in the old BBS. A guy coming off the bench getting 2-3BPG. Wahad is useless to me, and I don't care what anyone says, a worse player. What's more childish? Complaining about something legit? Or bringing up a time long ago that has no relevance now? Unless I'm mistaken, I have been one of the most active guys in the new BBS. My attitude? The only people that don't "like" me is Aaron, Pig, Mark and their little crew. Frankly, I don't like them either, they aren't even remotely funny and for some reason think they know it all and attack me whenever they can. I don't start anything with them, ever, it's simple as that. I don't care for them, but hell, I still propose trades to them and likewise. I really don't care if anyone doesn't like my attitude, but I know for a fact I'm not the worse. I appreciate you sticking by me Spence, because hey, you know I'm one of the most active GMs and maybe not the best... but I can take a bad team and make it a playoff team. I feel like I've been getting gipped as of late, that's all. I honestly think I got the better of the deal. Is his team alot better now? Sure, it is. Dirk is an All-1st and All-Defensive team player. That's also cause I RCed the shit out of him and I made him the player he is now. I can do the same with Marion. Those 3 1sts are just the icing on the cake... call it a bad trade or not, but NO ONE was offering me a player the caliber of Marion for Dirk, NOBODY. I needed a change, a defensive change, Marion is a much better defender and rebounder. Simple as that, so to those that are saying I changed my mind because 2 or 3 people said I got the worst end of the deal, are retarded. Change was needed.. I needed picks got them... I needed a player that could substitute Dirk, I got that in Marion, now you get over yourselves.. a) I'm pretty sure nobody likes you b) read what I said, I have no problem with the deal you made and never accused you of trying to reneg on it. Idiot.
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Post by The X-Factor on Jan 18, 2007 17:00:50 GMT -5
Yeah, it's all about me, right. Right, I realized I basically got raped with this deal when I probably could have gotten a better deal like Fortson and two picks. Or like 5 1sts for Dirk, man I'm an idiot. Marion probably won't pan out, and those 3 1sts are probably going to be worthless... please. I didn't propose the deal, he did. It didn't work, so I wanted to take advantage of it. Yes, I'm admitting that I want to take advantage. It's not against the rules that I wouldn't accept Wahad, it's simple as that. With that being said Sundov is 20, and there's something called RPs. He could easily be what Wang Zhi-Zhi was to me in the old BBS. A guy coming off the bench getting 2-3BPG. Wahad is useless to me, and I don't care what anyone says, a worse player. What's more childish? Complaining about something legit? Or bringing up a time long ago that has no relevance now? Unless I'm mistaken, I have been one of the most active guys in the new BBS. My attitude? The only people that don't "like" me is Aaron, Pig, Mark and their little crew. Frankly, I don't like them either, they aren't even remotely funny and for some reason think they know it all and attack me whenever they can. I don't start anything with them, ever, it's simple as that. I don't care for them, but hell, I still propose trades to them and likewise. I really don't care if anyone doesn't like my attitude, but I know for a fact I'm not the worse. I appreciate you sticking by me Spence, because hey, you know I'm one of the most active GMs and maybe not the best... but I can take a bad team and make it a playoff team. I feel like I've been getting gipped as of late, that's all. I honestly think I got the better of the deal. Is his team alot better now? Sure, it is. Dirk is an All-1st and All-Defensive team player. That's also cause I RCed the shit out of him and I made him the player he is now. I can do the same with Marion. Those 3 1sts are just the icing on the cake... call it a bad trade or not, but NO ONE was offering me a player the caliber of Marion for Dirk, NOBODY. I needed a change, a defensive change, Marion is a much better defender and rebounder. Simple as that, so to those that are saying I changed my mind because 2 or 3 people said I got the worst end of the deal, are retarded. Change was needed.. I needed picks got them... I needed a player that could substitute Dirk, I got that in Marion, now you get over yourselves.. a) I'm pretty sure nobody likes you b) read what I said, I have no problem with the deal you made and never accused you of trying to reneg on it. Idiot. wow kiddo, coming from you that means alot.
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Post by KruPaxson on Jan 18, 2007 18:15:56 GMT -5
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Post by Mark on Jan 18, 2007 18:25:09 GMT -5
wow kiddo, coming from you that means alot.
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Aaron are you going to take that? He called you kiddo!
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Post by Adelaide on Jan 18, 2007 18:25:34 GMT -5
Stop complaining and grow some nuts
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Post by duce on Jan 18, 2007 18:30:06 GMT -5
don't go out aaron, be a man
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Post by Dan on Jan 18, 2007 19:04:40 GMT -5
wait a second, if you love this trade so much... if you think you actaully ripped him, why are you backing out because of some crappy guy that probably doesnt deserve 10 minutes??
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Post by The X-Factor on Jan 18, 2007 19:06:55 GMT -5
blah blah blah... I'm not backing out you tard. I'm asking for Sundov back instead of Wahad, or atleast have been able to choose the guy I wanted to this trade to work with, simple as that.
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Post by aaronjh on Jan 18, 2007 19:15:56 GMT -5
don't go out aaron, be a man I'm...just a kid...do
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Post by Mark on Jan 18, 2007 19:19:00 GMT -5
blah blah blah... I'm not backing out you tard. I'm asking for Sundov back instead of Wahad, or atleast have been able to choose the guy I wanted to this trade to work with, simple as that. When you call someone a 'tard', aren't you just asking for it? I mean, I won't say it, but..
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Post by Dan on Jan 18, 2007 19:55:54 GMT -5
i am a tard guys because i make deals then complain about stupid shit.
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Post by The X-Factor on Jan 18, 2007 20:10:08 GMT -5
i am a tard guys because i make deals then complain about stupid shit. The first step is admitting it.
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Post by aaronjh on Jan 18, 2007 20:12:36 GMT -5
blah blah blah... I'm not backing out you tard. I'm asking for Sundov back instead of Wahad, or atleast have been able to choose the guy I wanted to this trade to work with, simple as that. When you call someone a 'tard', aren't you just asking for it? I mean, I won't say it, but you dropped out of college.
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Post by The X-Factor on Jan 18, 2007 20:15:48 GMT -5
aw... you guys are so cute when you gang up on me.
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